Re: [Tools-discuss] draft submitted source versions

Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Wed, 27 November 2019 09:52 UTC

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Tom Pusateri <pusateri@bangj.com> wrote:
    >> Tom Pusateri <pusateri=40bangj.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
    >>> Is there anyway to tell if the TXT version was created from the
    >>> submitted XML or was uploaded separately?
    >>
    >>> If an XML version is submitted, is there any reason to allow DRAFT
    >>> AUTHORS to submit alternate versions still?
    >>
    >> If the XML won't format because the references.* files are AWOL, then
    >> allowing the author to upload the TXT version lets them get around that.
    >>
    >> This happened to me last week.

    > Sure but then don’t accept the XML AND the TXT. If the XML is bad,
    > reject it and accept the TXT.

    > Otherwise you have two different source documents and there should be only one.

Yes, I see this problem, but I see a bigger problem of archival.

And then we don't have the XML file available, and we don't get a record of
why the XML didn't format. (In my case, because reference.* files were
missing)

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