Re: [Tools-implementation] Organization of the mail archives

[Glen <[e-mail]>]

Separate subthread:

On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 10:31 AM Robert Sparks <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >>                      Email    Mailman    /a/mailman/archives Mailman Legacy Archives
> This has to remain - it is where mailman's internal archiving takes
> place - any lists using pipermail are kept here, so Legacy isn't really
> accurate above

Point of clarification:
*All lists use pipermail in that Ryan has said that Mailman2's
internal archiver cannot be shut off or replaced.
But
*No lists use pipermail in that /pipermail is not served from anywhere
in the Apache config, and all references to /pipermail are redirected
to the Mailarchive.

So we cannot move or remove, but can safely ignore, everything inside
/a/mailman it seems.

> >>                      FTP    FTP/Website combined /a/www/ietf-ftp/concluded-wg-ietf-mail-archive        ftp, rsync    none    NOT exposed by http

Forgive me, I might be misreading "NOT exposed by http," but:
https://www.ietf.org/ietf-ftp/concluded-wg-ietf-mail-archive/

> These have all been imported, and are served through the mailarchive.
> These should be stashed. I personally don't think we should serve them
> in any way since they are available through the mailarchive.

+1 I agree they should be removed from FTP, RSYNC, and HTTP, and not served.

> >>                      FTP    FTP/Website combined /a/www/ietf-ftp/ietf-mail-archive    Contains text versions of mail archive    ftp, rsync    night-runner    All web access is to the /a/www/ietf-mail-archive tree, which this is a copy of
> This should go away as soon as ftp stops depending on it (and we had
> another conversation about removing it already).
> >>                      Email    Mailarchive /a/www/ietf-mail-archive    Legacy mail archive
> >>                      Email    Mailarchive /a/www/ietf-mail-archive/text
> >>                      Email    Mailarchive /a/www/ietf-mail-archive/text-secure
> >>                      Email    Mailarchive /a/www/ietf-mail-archive/web
> >>                      Email    Mailarchive /a/www/ietf-mail-archive/web-old
> >>                      Email    Mailarchive /a/www/ietf-mail-archive/web-secure
> >> Again, has all of that been imported, and can all of this simply be removed (or stashed offline)?
> All of this should be stashed. Everything here, with the possible
> exception of things in web-old have been imported into mailarchive. Ryan
> is looking at making sure those get imported. Once that's done, all of
> these should either be taken offline or put in the museum.

+1.

I assume I should do the "taking offline".  How will I know when to
proceed with that?  Robert, I assume you will oversee that?

Glen