Re: [trill] Charter Revision Active-Active Item
Donald Eastlake <d3e3e3@gmail.com> Fri, 14 June 2013 18:47 UTC
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Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2013 14:47:27 -0400
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Subject: Re: [trill] Charter Revision Active-Active Item
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Hi Yizhou, On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 11:14 PM, Yizhou Li <liyizhou@huawei.com> wrote: > Currently we have appointed forwarder (AF) mechanism for > multi-access link connecting to edge RBridges. As AF only allows one > RBridge forwarding frames for a single VLAN, it is normally > considered as VLAN scoped active-standby though traffic can be load > balanced among VLANs. > > The word "active-active" used in item 2 excludes the problems > identified for current AF mechanism and non active-active > scenarios. I think something like "multi-access connections at the > edge" is a better description. Problems in multi-access connections > but not typical active-active scenarios include the following in my > opinion, > > 1. Simplified AF mechanism with the approach specified by RFC6325 > appendix A.3. draft-yizhou-trill-tc-awareness described STP topology > change problem within this scenario too. I think the TRILL WG can produce a document updating Appendix A.3 of RFC 6325 without having that included in a special numbered work item. > 2. Optimization of AF mechanism, e.g - Better convergence time for > failure recovery. Currently (3*) Hello timer is used to detect the > neighbor RB failure and then DRB should re-assign the VLANs > previously delegated to the failed RB to others. It takes too long > time in practice. I believe at least for access link (not equipment) > failure some optimization can be done for traditional AF mechanism > to improve the detection timer and AF re-assignment. Connectivity failure to a neighbor RB can also be detected by BFD or in other ways. But in any case, updating RFC 6439 concerning Appointed Forwarders is also something I think we can do without it being included in a special numbered work item. Thanks, Donald ============================= Donald E. Eastlake 3rd +1-508-333-2270 (cell) 155 Beaver Street, Milford, MA 01757 USA d3e3e3@gmail.com > 3. Common problems for both active-active and active-standby (AF like > mechanism) cases. E.g. rapid MAC address purge at the remote RBridge when > existing nickname-MAC correspondence becomes invalid at local. > > I propose one of the following to be present in the charter. > 1) Specify a larger scope for item 2. E.g. replace active-active with > multi-access > Or > 2) Add another item. Something like, Enhancement of current multi-access > connection mechanism at the edge of a TRILL campus. > > > Thanks, > Yizhou > > -----Original Message----- > From: trill-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:trill-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > Donald Eastlake > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 10:06 AM > To: trill@ietf.org > Subject: [trill] Charter Revision Active-Active Item > > Hi, > > Item "(2) Active-Active connection at the edge of a TRILL campus. > (draft-ietf-trill-cmt, draft-hu-trill-pseudonode-nickname)" > > There appeared to be agreement that work should be done in this space > but a better problem statement / scope was requested. > > Comments? > > Thanks, > Donald
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