Re: [trill] Charter Revision Active-Active Item

Donald Eastlake <d3e3e3@gmail.com> Tue, 07 May 2013 03:45 UTC

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From: Donald Eastlake <d3e3e3@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 06 May 2013 23:45:24 -0400
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Subject: Re: [trill] Charter Revision Active-Active Item
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Hi Olen,

Thanks for suggesting this clarification. I agree that only transient
loops protected by the hop count are acceptable.

On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Olen Stokes <ostokes@extremenetworks.com> wrote:
> Thanks for the proposal.  We may want to add some clarification to the discussion about looping during transient conditions associated with a topology change.  Loops contained completely inside the TRILL network would have a TTL count to help mitigate the problem.  However, a loop where a packet continually leaves the TRILL network and then re-enters the TRILL network will not receive benefit from the TTL count.  Such a loop should not be permitted even during a transient period.

Thanks,
Donald
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 Donald E. Eastlake 3rd   +1-508-333-2270 (cell)
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> Cheers,
> Olen
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: trill-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:trill-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Donald Eastlake
> Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 10:09 PM
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> Subject: Re: [trill] Charter Revision Active-Active Item
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> Just speaking as a WG participant, I've come up with the attached, which incorporates some comments from others. It could be expanded into an internet draft if desired.
>
> Thanks,
> Donald
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>  Donald E. Eastlake 3rd   +1-508-333-2270 (cell)
>  155 Beaver Street, Milford, MA 01757 USA  d3e3e3@gmail.com
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> On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 10:05 PM, Donald Eastlake <d3e3e3@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Item "(2) Active-Active connection at the edge of a TRILL campus.
>> (draft-ietf-trill-cmt, draft-hu-trill-pseudonode-nickname)"
>>
>> There appeared to be agreement that work should be done in this space
>> but a better problem statement / scope was requested.
>>
>> Comments?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Donald
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>>  Donald E. Eastlake 3rd   +1-508-333-2270 (cell)
>>  155 Beaver Street, Milford, MA 01757 USA  d3e3e3@gmail.com