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Re: Draft agenda uploaded

Joe Touch <touch@strayalpha.com> Wed, 07 March 2018 17:40 UTC

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> On Mar 7, 2018, at 9:39 AM, Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF) <ietf@kuehlewind.net> wrote:
> 
> I guess in many cases the concern is simply that UDP is more often block than TCP…

Sure. Can’t do much about that motivation at the endpoints. 

Joe

> 
> 
>> Am 07.03.2018 um 18:31 schrieb Joe Touch <touch@strayalpha.com>:
>> 
>> Fwiw, ick. I am hoping the pending UDP options  and their frag support while allowing frag traversal of NATs will help discourage use of TCP this way. 
>> 
>> Joe
>> 
>>> On Mar 7, 2018, at 9:04 AM, Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF) <ietf@kuehlewind.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Tom,
>>> 
>>> no, this is more a topic that we as the AD would like to discuss with the community as we see more and more work that adds TCP encapsulation to all kind of protocols for middlebox traversal issues. 
>>> 
>>> Mirja
>>> 
>>>> Am 07.03.2018 um 17:56 schrieb Tom Herbert <tom@herbertland.com>:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 7, 2018 8:16 AM, "Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF)" <ietf@kuehlewind.net> wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> we plan to have a short (1h) TSV area meeting in London and are scheduled for
>>>> 
>>>> tsvarea Session 1 (1:00:00)
>>>> Monday, Afternoon Session III 1740-1840
>>>> Room Name: Sandringham size: 300
>>>> 
>>>> We just uploaded the planned agenda:
>>>> 
>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/101/materials/agenda-101-tsvarea
>>>> 
>>>> Besides the usual updates and status report, we are planning for a discussion about TCP encapsulation with a corresponding presentation about experience with TCP encapsulation for IKE.
>>>> 
>>>> Mirja,
>>>> 
>>>> Is there a draft or RFC for TCP encapsulation that is being discussed?
>>>> 
>>>> Tom
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> See you all in London!
>>>> 
>>>> Mirja and Spencer
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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