Re: [tsvwg] New draft to update L2TP, GRE, PPTP, GTP & VXLAN, etc. for ECN

Bob Briscoe <ietf@bobbriscoe.net> Fri, 08 July 2016 18:52 UTC

Return-Path: <ietf@bobbriscoe.net>
X-Original-To: tsvwg@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: tsvwg@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AD8312D59E for <tsvwg@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 8 Jul 2016 11:52:58 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -1.9
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cVk6WN0z0A_1 for <tsvwg@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 8 Jul 2016 11:52:56 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from server.dnsblock1.com (server.dnsblock1.com [85.13.236.178]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 70E6912D140 for <tsvwg@ietf.org>; Fri, 8 Jul 2016 11:52:56 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from 114.50.113.87.dyn.plus.net ([87.113.50.114]:60787 helo=[192.168.0.6]) by server.dnsblock1.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from <ietf@bobbriscoe.net>) id 1bLatP-0005ca-Kb; Fri, 08 Jul 2016 19:52:51 +0100
To: "Andrew G. Malis" <agmalis@gmail.com>
References: <20160708114131.32189.93751.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <577F987C.60800@bobbriscoe.net> <CAA=duU32VZ=U1+dSj69osAnBxntVAS1i2axTQ6K0rerOObqERA@mail.gmail.com>
From: Bob Briscoe <ietf@bobbriscoe.net>
Message-ID: <577FF682.9010402@bobbriscoe.net>
Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2016 19:52:50 +0100
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.8.0
MIME-Version: 1.0
In-Reply-To: <CAA=duU32VZ=U1+dSj69osAnBxntVAS1i2axTQ6K0rerOObqERA@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------010608070608070205060407"
X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report
X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server.dnsblock1.com
X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org
X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12]
X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - bobbriscoe.net
X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: server.dnsblock1.com: authenticated_id: in@bobbriscoe.net
X-Authenticated-Sender: server.dnsblock1.com: in@bobbriscoe.net
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tsvwg/1lq_F6Bs-bNJknDsQsjUuMVnBOQ>
Cc: Gorry Fairhurst <gorry@erg.abdn.ac.uk>, tsvwg IETF list <tsvwg@ietf.org>, j.c.zuniga@ieee.org, intarea@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [tsvwg] New draft to update L2TP, GRE, PPTP, GTP & VXLAN, etc. for ECN
X-BeenThere: tsvwg@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17
Precedence: list
List-Id: Transport Area Working Group <tsvwg.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/tsvwg>, <mailto:tsvwg-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/tsvwg/>
List-Post: <mailto:tsvwg@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:tsvwg-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tsvwg>, <mailto:tsvwg-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2016 18:52:58 -0000

Andy,

On 08/07/16 14:51, Andrew G. Malis wrote:
> Bob,
>
> How about RFC 4023, MPLS in IP or GRE?

RFC5129 covers ECN for MPLS in MPLS, MPLS in IP. Because it's quite 
different from IP-in-IP where ECN is concerned.

But thx anyway.


Bob

>
> Cheers,
> Andy
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 8:11 AM, Bob Briscoe <ietf@bobbriscoe.net 
> <mailto:ietf@bobbriscoe.net>> wrote:
>
>     tsvwg, intarea, and respective co-chairs,
>
>     I have posted a new very brief draft (under 2 pages not incl.
>     boilerplate), intended for standards track as a bis to RFC6040.
>     As suggested in Buenos Aires, this has been extracted from
>     draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-encap-guidelines, to cut all the clutter and
>     highlight solely the standards track stuff.
>
>     Propagating Explicit Congestion Notification Across IP Tunnel
>     Headers Separated by a Shim
>     https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-briscoe-tsvwg-rfc6040bis-00
>
>     If approved, it is intended to update L2TP, GRE, PPTP, GTP & VXLAN.
>     Obviously the IETF does not control GTP - see text for how 3GPP
>     might use this spec.
>     Simialrly, given VXLAN is informational, it's perhaps not
>     appropriate to update it - exactly how this is worded is for
>     discussion.
>
>     For IETF-96, I've asked for a slot in intarea to explain, and I
>     also hope to cover this in an ecn-encap-guidelines slot in tsvwg.
>
>     I'd appreciate help identifying more tunnelling protocols that
>     follow the pattern of a shim sandwiched between two IP headers.
>     Since posting, I've looked at Joe's Tunnelling draft and realised
>     I missed out Geneve and GUE. More?
>
>     Cheers
>
>
>     Bob
>
>     On 08/07/16 12:41, internet-drafts@ietf.org
>     <mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org> wrote:
>
>         A new version of I-D, draft-briscoe-tsvwg-rfc6040bis-00.txt
>         has been successfully submitted by Bob Briscoe and posted to the
>         IETF repository.
>
>         Name:           draft-briscoe-tsvwg-rfc6040bis
>         Revision:       00
>         Title:          Propagating Explicit Congestion Notification
>         Across IP Tunnel Headers Separated by a Shim
>         Document date:  2016-07-08
>         Group:          Individual Submission
>         Pages:          5
>         URL:
>         https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-briscoe-tsvwg-rfc6040bis-00.txt
>         Status:
>         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-briscoe-tsvwg-rfc6040bis/
>         Htmlized:
>         https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-briscoe-tsvwg-rfc6040bis-00
>
>
>         Abstract:
>             RFC 6040 on "Tunnelling of Explicit Congestion
>         Notification" made the
>             rules for propagation of ECN consistent for all forms of
>         IP in IP
>             tunnel.  This specification extends the scope of RFC 6040
>         to include
>             tunnels where two IP headers are separated by a shim
>         header that
>             cannot stand alone.
>
>
>
>         Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time
>         of submission
>         until the htmlized version and diff are available at
>         tools.ietf.org <http://tools.ietf.org>.
>
>         The IETF Secretariat
>
>
>     -- 
>     ________________________________________________________________
>     Bob Briscoe http://bobbriscoe.net/
>
>

-- 
________________________________________________________________
Bob Briscoe                               http://bobbriscoe.net/