Re: [tsvwg] New draft to update L2TP, GRE, PPTP, GTP & VXLAN, etc. for ECN
Bob Briscoe <ietf@bobbriscoe.net> Fri, 08 July 2016 19:09 UTC
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Subject: Re: [tsvwg] New draft to update L2TP, GRE, PPTP, GTP & VXLAN, etc. for ECN
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David, On 08/07/16 15:50, Black, David wrote: > VXLAN (RFC 7348) is an independent submission (ISE) RFC - it is not updatable by the IETF. Yeah, I realised that after I pressed submit (as I said). I've removed VXLAN from the "Updates" header. I will just have to treat VXLAN like I've treated GTP - cite it, and say we expect the <other forum> to refer to the present spec. I've updated my local copy, and I've mentioned Geneve and GUE, altho they already correctly refer to RFC6040, so no need to "update" them. I might post an -01 draft before the deadline tonight. That didn't used to be possible when the deadlines were on different days, but I think it works now. Bob > > Thanks, --David > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Bob Briscoe [mailto:ietf@bobbriscoe.net] >> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2016 8:12 AM >> To: tsvwg IETF list; intarea@ietf.org; Wassim Haddad; j.c.zuniga@ieee.org; Gorry >> Fairhurst; Black, David >> Subject: New draft to update L2TP, GRE, PPTP, GTP & VXLAN, etc. for ECN >> >> tsvwg, intarea, and respective co-chairs, >> >> I have posted a new very brief draft (under 2 pages not incl. >> boilerplate), intended for standards track as a bis to RFC6040. >> As suggested in Buenos Aires, this has been extracted from >> draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-encap-guidelines, to cut all the clutter and >> highlight solely the standards track stuff. >> >> Propagating Explicit Congestion Notification Across IP Tunnel Headers >> Separated by a Shim >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-briscoe-tsvwg-rfc6040bis-00 >> >> If approved, it is intended to update L2TP, GRE, PPTP, GTP & VXLAN. >> Obviously the IETF does not control GTP - see text for how 3GPP might >> use this spec. >> Simialrly, given VXLAN is informational, it's perhaps not appropriate to >> update it - exactly how this is worded is for discussion. >> >> For IETF-96, I've asked for a slot in intarea to explain, and I also >> hope to cover this in an ecn-encap-guidelines slot in tsvwg. >> >> I'd appreciate help identifying more tunnelling protocols that follow >> the pattern of a shim sandwiched between two IP headers. >> Since posting, I've looked at Joe's Tunnelling draft and realised I >> missed out Geneve and GUE. More? >> >> Cheers >> >> >> Bob >> >> On 08/07/16 12:41, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: >>> A new version of I-D, draft-briscoe-tsvwg-rfc6040bis-00.txt >>> has been successfully submitted by Bob Briscoe and posted to the >>> IETF repository. >>> >>> Name: draft-briscoe-tsvwg-rfc6040bis >>> Revision: 00 >>> Title: Propagating Explicit Congestion Notification Across IP Tunnel >> Headers Separated by a Shim >>> Document date: 2016-07-08 >>> Group: Individual Submission >>> Pages: 5 >>> URL: https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-briscoe-tsvwg- >> rfc6040bis-00.txt >>> Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-briscoe-tsvwg-rfc6040bis/ >>> Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-briscoe-tsvwg-rfc6040bis-00 >>> >>> >>> Abstract: >>> RFC 6040 on "Tunnelling of Explicit Congestion Notification" made the >>> rules for propagation of ECN consistent for all forms of IP in IP >>> tunnel. This specification extends the scope of RFC 6040 to include >>> tunnels where two IP headers are separated by a shim header that >>> cannot stand alone. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission >>> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >>> >>> The IETF Secretariat >>> >> -- >> ______________________________________________________________ >> __ >> Bob Briscoe http://bobbriscoe.net/ -- ________________________________________________________________ Bob Briscoe http://bobbriscoe.net/
- Re: [tsvwg] [Int-area] New draft to update L2TP, … Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
- Re: [tsvwg] New draft to update L2TP, GRE, PPTP, … Bob Briscoe
- Re: [tsvwg] [Int-area] New draft to update L2TP, … Bob Briscoe
- Re: [tsvwg] New draft to update L2TP, GRE, PPTP, … Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
- Re: [tsvwg] New draft to update L2TP, GRE, PPTP, … Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
- Re: [tsvwg] [Int-area] New draft to update L2TP, … Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
- Re: [tsvwg] New draft to update L2TP, GRE, PPTP, … Bob Briscoe
- Re: [tsvwg] New draft to update L2TP, GRE, PPTP, … Bob Briscoe
- Re: [tsvwg] New draft to update L2TP, GRE, PPTP, … Black, David
- Re: [tsvwg] New draft to update L2TP, GRE, PPTP, … Andrew G. Malis
- [tsvwg] New draft to update L2TP, GRE, PPTP, GTP … Bob Briscoe
- [tsvwg] New draft to update L2TP, GRE, PPTP, GTP … Bob Briscoe