Re: [tsvwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tsvwg-nqb-15.txt

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From: Greg White <g.white@cablelabs.com>
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All,

I've posted an updated NQB draft that I believe addresses all of the comments that had been submitted during WGLC. I'll write up a summary of the changes shortly, but in the interim I wanted to provide a better diff link than the one auto-generated by the draft submission tool (which currently seems to have some problems).
https://author-tools.ietf.org/diff?doc_1=draft-ietf-tsvwg-nqb-15&rfcdiff=1

Best Regards,
Greg




On 1/11/23, 5:34 PM, "tsvwg on behalf of internet-drafts@ietf.org <mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org>" <tsvwg-bounces@ietf.org <mailto:tsvwg-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of internet-drafts@ietf.org <mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org>> wrote:




A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Transport Area Working Group WG of the IETF.


Title : A Non-Queue-Building Per-Hop Behavior (NQB PHB) for Differentiated Services
Authors : Greg White
Thomas Fossati
Filename : draft-ietf-tsvwg-nqb-15.txt
Pages : 25
Date : 2023-01-11


Abstract:
This document specifies properties and characteristics of a Non-
Queue-Building Per-Hop Behavior (NQB PHB). The purpose of this NQB
PHB is to provide a separate queue that enables smooth, low-data-
rate, application-limited traffic flows, which would ordinarily share
a queue with bursty and capacity-seeking traffic, to avoid the
latency, latency variation and loss caused by such traffic. This PHB
is implemented without prioritization and can be implemented without
rate policing, making it suitable for environments where the use of
these features is restricted. The NQB PHB has been developed
primarily for use by access network segments, where queuing delays
and queuing loss caused by Queue-Building protocols are manifested,
but its use is not limited to such segments. In particular,
applications to cable broadband links, Wi-Fi links, and mobile
network radio and core segments are discussed. This document
recommends a specific Differentiated Services Code Point (DSCP) to
identify Non-Queue-Building flows.




The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-tsvwg-nqb/ <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-tsvwg-nqb/>


There is also an HTML version available at:
https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-tsvwg-nqb-15.html <https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-tsvwg-nqb-15.html>


A diff from the previous version is available at:
https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-ietf-tsvwg-nqb-15 <https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-ietf-tsvwg-nqb-15>




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