[tsvwg] draft-ietf-tsvwg-nqb-15.txt - Section 5.2. Traffic Protection - Requirements and example ref
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Subject: [tsvwg] draft-ietf-tsvwg-nqb-15.txt - Section 5.2. Traffic Protection - Requirements and example ref
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Hi Greg, Section 5.2. Traffic Protection To me, one of the features which might add value to am NQB PHB as compared to EF as specified by Van Jacobsen et al. could be a queue protection. The draft offers a reference to an IPR protected ID, https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-tsvwg-nqb-15.html#I-D.briscoe-docsis-q-protection. My personal view is, unless draft NQB defines generic requirements for a queue protection, which can be implemented without having to deploy the IPR protected ID. The text of section 5.2 is insufficient to do so. As an example for text where I'd assume you can find some generic requirements (including requirements language), please have a look at Data-Over-Cable Service Interface Specifications DOCSIS® 3.1 MAC and Upper Layer Protocols Interface Specification CM-SP-MULPIv3.1-I24-221019 https://community.cablelabs.com/wiki/plugins/servlet/cablelabs/alfresco/download?id=b13a1ebb-93de-4bda-b13d-e96186ac5671 or via https://www.cablelabs.com/specifications/search?currentPage=1&query=&category=DOCSIS&doctype=Specifications&content=false&archives=false&subcat=DOCSIS%203.1 should the above one not work. There see Annex P.3 Microflow Categorization, especially section P.3 Microflow Categorization Regards, Ruediger -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: tsvwg <tsvwg-bounces@ietf.org> Im Auftrag von internet-drafts@ietf.org Gesendet: Donnerstag, 12. Januar 2023 01:34 An: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: tsvwg@ietf.org Betreff: [tsvwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tsvwg-nqb-15.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Transport Area Working Group WG of the IETF. Title : A Non-Queue-Building Per-Hop Behavior (NQB PHB) for Differentiated Services Authors : Greg White Thomas Fossati Filename : draft-ietf-tsvwg-nqb-15.txt Pages : 25 Date : 2023-01-11 Abstract: This document specifies properties and characteristics of a Non- Queue-Building Per-Hop Behavior (NQB PHB). The purpose of this NQB PHB is to provide a separate queue that enables smooth, low-data- rate, application-limited traffic flows, which would ordinarily share a queue with bursty and capacity-seeking traffic, to avoid the latency, latency variation and loss caused by such traffic. This PHB is implemented without prioritization and can be implemented without rate policing, making it suitable for environments where the use of these features is restricted. The NQB PHB has been developed primarily for use by access network segments, where queuing delays and queuing loss caused by Queue-Building protocols are manifested, but its use is not limited to such segments. In particular, applications to cable broadband links, Wi-Fi links, and mobile network radio and core segments are discussed. This document recommends a specific Differentiated Services Code Point (DSCP) to identify Non-Queue-Building flows. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-tsvwg-nqb/ There is also an HTML version available at: https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-tsvwg-nqb-15.html A diff from the previous version is available at: https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-ietf-tsvwg-nqb-15 Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at rsync.ietf.org::internet-drafts
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- [tsvwg] draft-ietf-tsvwg-nqb-15.txt vs the cake A… Dave Taht
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- Re: [tsvwg] draft-ietf-tsvwg-nqb-15.txt vs the ca… Greg White
- Re: [tsvwg] draft-ietf-tsvwg-nqb-15.txt vs the ca… Sebastian Moeller
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- Re: [tsvwg] draft-ietf-tsvwg-nqb-15.txt vs the ca… Sebastian Moeller
- Re: [tsvwg] draft-ietf-tsvwg-nqb-15.txt vs the ca… Greg White
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- Re: [tsvwg] draft-ietf-tsvwg-nqb-15.txt - 4.2. Ag… Greg White
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- Re: [tsvwg] draft-ietf-tsvwg-nqb-15.txt - Section… Sebastian Moeller
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- Re: [tsvwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tsvwg-nqb-15.t… Sebastian Moeller
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- Re: [tsvwg] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tsvwg-nqb-15.t… Sebastian Moeller
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- Re: [tsvwg] draft-ietf-tsvwg-nqb-17.txt - 3.3. Re… Greg White
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- Re: [tsvwg] draft-ietf-tsvwg-nqb-15.txt - 5.1 Pri… Sebastian Moeller
- Re: [tsvwg] draft-ietf-tsvwg-nqb-17.txt - 3.3. Re… Ruediger.Geib
- Re: [tsvwg] draft-ietf-tsvwg-nqb-15.txt - 5.1 Pri… Ruediger.Geib
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- Re: [tsvwg] draft-ietf-tsvwg-nqb-15.txt - 5.1 Pri… Sebastian Moeller
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