RE: Deprecating ICMP Source Quench messages

"Dan Wing" <dwing@cisco.com> Mon, 29 November 2010 22:04 UTC

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From: Dan Wing <dwing@cisco.com>
To: 'Fernando Gont' <fernando@gont.com.ar>, 'tsvwg' <tsvwg@ietf.org>
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Subject: RE: Deprecating ICMP Source Quench messages
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: tsvwg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:tsvwg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf
> Of Fernando Gont
> Sent: Friday, November 26, 2010 3:40 PM
> To: tsvwg
> Subject: Deprecating ICMP Source Quench messages
> 
> Folks,
> 
> At the tsvwg wg meeting @ Beijing I presented the I-D
> draft-gont-tsvwg-source-quench-00, which aims at deprecating ICMP
> Source
> Quench messages.
> 
> My understanding is that the general feeling was "Oh, yeah... we should
> have deprecated ICMP Source Quench a long time ago" (which had also
> been
> the feeling at tcpm when we had discussed this idea years ago).
> 
> However, since nobody had actually read the I-D, the decision about
> adoption of this document as a wg item was deferred.
> 
> So I'm asking for feedback on the document, and on whether there's
> support to pursue this document in tsvwg.
> 
> FWIW, the document is so short that, even if you have not read it
> before, it shouldn't take more than a few minutes to skim through it.

I read it.  Looks good.  

Might also want to mention that ICMPv6 didn't bother defining 
Source Quench.

-d