[Tsvwg] transport doc RE: WG Last Call: three draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv4survey-*01 documents (fwd)
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Hi Pekka, > > Could you improve > > the ToC, for example, listing the RFCs as subsections? > > ToC could get quite long, compare to ...-ipv4survey-apps-01. It may not > necessarily make it clearer (IMHO). It also may be more difficult to > generate a "full ToC", depends on the tools used. OK - I was just looking for an easier way to find particular RFCs / protocols, as most readers won't be experts on all of the RFCs included. > Personally I don't have a strong opinion either way. > > > Also, > > the formatting of the document is confusing - I believe that > > all paragraph text should be indented - which it is not; > > Agreed, I don't know how difficult this would be given the methods used to > edit the documents. See my above comment. > > however > > text copied from existing RFCs should probably be doubly indented > > (it is currently indented a single time, for example in 3.3.1) > > I agree but this could cause problems, if the double-intending would push > the length beyond 72 characters, there could be problems.. Reformatting might be OK, depending upon the tools used - again, just looking for a way to improve readability. > > I hope this is not overly nit-picky, but my first attempt at > > reading this document was not successful as the current formatting > > got in the way of understanding what is being discussed. > > Yep. > > > Section 4 doesn't contain any Draft Standards ... I assume > this is an > > oversite. > > Maybe Andreas forgot to add the sentence saying that there are no Draft > Standards here (or if there actually are, those are missing somewhere). OK > > In section 5, it might be better not to list the specs that have no IPv4 > > dependencies, or better yet, move them all to an appendix and list them > > in tabular format. > > We're trying to list these documents under section 7. Hopefully this is > clear enough, as we'd hope to avoid restructuring Phil's legacy too > much..? OK, just a suggestion to improve readability. > > References are a little sparse, too - you may want to > consider putting > > all RFCs listed into the References as well. > > I disagree, but not strongly; IMHO, it should be apparent that the > specific RFC's are all "unofficial" RFC's .. the list in the end would > just get very, very long for not significant benefit (one that I could see > anyway). That is fine will me. I'll try to read the document tomorrow for technical comments. John _______________________________________________ tsvwg mailing list tsvwg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tsvwg
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