Re: [GNAP] Terminology PR

[Adrian Gropper <[e-mail]>]

I'm new to the GNAP list so please forgive me as I get up to speed.

RO is a role and the 'subject' of a piece of data is not. I don't see any
problem in keeping this distinction straight throughout the spec.

- Adrian

On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 4:27 PM Tom Jones <[e-mail]>
wrote:

> Right - the correct term should be *subjects' information* as there are
> potentially two subjects, the RO and the "end-user" (really terribly
> confusing name). If you consider the case where the end-user is the parent
> of a child, or of their spouse, both subjects will be asked to supply
> information in order to be authenticated.
> Peace ..tom
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 5:20 AM Fabien Imbault <[e-mail]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Mark,
>>
>> Thanks for the feedback.
>>
>> The original requirement for "subject" comes from the reference to
>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-secevent-subject-identifiers-06
>> (used in the main text). The objective was to try to avoid various terms
>> which are synonyms.
>>
>> You're right, it's close to a legal entity, except from the fact that it
>> is defined more broadly (person, organization or device), which is
>> something we can encounter for the RO for instance.
>>
>> For instance we had previous discussions where the RO was defined as :
>> "personal or organizational entity"
>> which I replaced in the latest draft by
>> "subject entity" (since it is defined)
>>
>> For "Subject Information", the question whether this refers to the
>> end-user or the RO is currently left open.
>>
>> Please let me know your thoughts.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Fabien
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 8:38 PM Mark Lizar <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Fabien,  et al,
>>>
>>> Great start!!
>>>
>>> Could you clarify the use and application of the term subject, as the
>>> term is used in some legal standards for semantics and I wonder if this is
>>> related to the legal semantic attribution of data subject.
>>>
>>> In the glossary,  it also seems the Subject Entity is referring to what
>>> is commonly know as legal entity.   And the term subject can refer to a few
>>> things at this technical level.— e.g.  a semantic term referencing in
>>> general the *topic* of the resource  or is it the* legal entity
>>> / credential *that corresponds to the accountable controller of a
>>> resource ?
>>>
>>> - Mark
>>>
>>> On 5 Jan 2021, at 08:04, Fabien Imbault <[e-mail]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> I wish you all a happy new year.
>>>
>>> I just created a PR (
>>> https://github.com/ietf-wg-gnap/gnap-core-protocol/pull/155) that takes
>>> into account the various feedbacks. The automatic build process is not
>>> working, but you can see the diffs and build the html locally if you
>>> prefer. The definitions have also been updated on the wiki (
>>> https://github.com/ietf-wg-gnap/gnap-core-protocol/wiki/Terminology) if
>>> you prefer to check there.
>>>
>>> Feedbacks welcome before we move to pending merge later on.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Fabien
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