Re: [Unbearable] Alissa Cooper's Discuss on draft-ietf-tokbind-https-14: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> Thu, 21 June 2018 00:07 UTC

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Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2018 17:06:50 -0700
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To: Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in>
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Subject: Re: [Unbearable] Alissa Cooper's Discuss on draft-ietf-tokbind-https-14: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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Alissa, does the latest draft address your DISCUSS?

On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 10:54 AM, Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in> wrote:

> Alissa Cooper has entered the following ballot position for
> draft-ietf-tokbind-https-14: Discuss
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> Section 2.1 says:
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> "The scoping of Token Binding key pairs generated by Web browsers for
>    use in first-party and federation use cases defined in this
>    specification (Section 5), and intended for binding HTTP cookies,
>    MUST be no wider than the granularity of "effective top-level domain
>    (public suffix) + 1" (eTLD+1).  I.e., the scope of Token Binding key
>    pairs is no wider than the scope at which cookies can be set (see
>    [RFC6265]), but MAY be more narrow if cookies are scoped more
>    narrowly."
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> My reading of RFC 6265 is that it does not actually forbid cookie setting
> at a
> scope wider than eTLD+1, although I could be reading Section 5.3 of that
> document wrong. That section says that if the user agent is configured to
> reject public suffixes, then there is a case where a set-cookie request
> should
> be ignored. If the intent here is to normatively restrict the scope of
> Token
> Binding key pairs to eTLD+1 regardless of whether the user agent restricts
> cookies to that scope, that needs to be stated clearly.
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> I kind of hate to say this but with the way this is phrased I also think
> you
> need a normative reference for the concept of "effective top-level
> domain." (I
> suspect this would be considered a downref and may not already be in the
> downref registry, but I'm not one to make a fuss about that.)
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> I would also suggest s/but/and/ in the last sentence quoted from 2.1 above.
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