Re: [urn] Request for oneM2M URN Namespace registration

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Subject: Re: [urn] Request for oneM2M URN Namespace registration
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Dear Juha, Dale, 

Thanks so much for your comments. Please, see my answers inline.

Best regards.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Hakala, Juha E <juha.hakala@helsinki.fi> 
Sent: 23 February 2022 08:57
To: Dale R. Worley <worley@ariadne.com>; Miguel Angel Reina Ortega <MiguelAngel.ReinaOrtega@etsi.org>
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Subject: VS: [urn] Request for oneM2M URN Namespace registration

Hello, 

-----Alkuperäinen viesti-----
Lähettäjä: urn <urn-bounces@ietf.org> Puolesta Dale R. Worley
Lähetetty: keskiviikko 23. helmikuuta 2022 4.28
Vastaanottaja: Miguel Angel Reina Ortega <MiguelAngel.ReinaOrtega=40etsi.org@dmarc.ietf.org>
Kopio: urn@ietf.org; superuser@gmail.com; francesca.palombini@ericsson.com
Aihe: Re: [urn] Request for oneM2M URN Namespace registration

As ETSI is a recognized standards body, we should fast-track this.

+ 1. 

Also, there's little specific information to review.  

Subtree registration page 

https://wiki.onem2m.org/index.php?title=OneM2M_URN_Namespace

provides additional information about oneM2M URNs, but there are some gaps. 

Namespace specific strings will consist of two parts: 

<nss-root>:<nss-restoftree>

Character set of nss-root is specified as a-z, A-Z, 0-9, but nothing is said about the character set of nss-restoftree. I suppose you could limit it to printable ASCII characters, in order to eliminate the impact of Unicode confusables. 

 Within nss-root MGMT, the nss-restoftree will have the following structure:  

[MRO] You are right, we forgot to specify that. We will include it at the subtree registration page.

urn:onem2m:mgmt.:nwkType:<identifier>:[<parameters>]

[MRO] Thanks for spotting this, it's fixed now. 

I suppose the dot after mgmt is an error. If so, we get URNs like: 

urn:onem2m:mgmt:nwkType:lora or urn:onem2m:mgmt:nwkType:ansi_c_12:parameter

Within nss-restoftree colon has two different roles in the mgmt sub-namespace. It separates both nwkType from identifier and identifier from parameter (if any). This might create confusion regarding the role of the parameter, since nothing in the URN syntax says that the parameter is not part of the identifier. And if in the future you need to sub-divide nwkType, it might no longer be obvious for someone who does not know the syntax already where the identifier is and whether there is a parameter. 

Since onem2m parameters will not have a role in identification, you might be better off including them as URN R-components. Since your URNs will not be resolved, this should not be problematic in any way. 

[MRO] I will let oneM2M delegates know your proposal and modify that as required.

URN namespace registrations do not need to be RFCs. An RFC can be provided if the identifier system has not been specified elsewhere, and it is considered useful to create an RFC for this purpose (see e.g. RFC 8458; https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc8458). In your case, I do not think that RFC is required or even justified. It will be easier both for you and IETF if you send us just a template as specified in RFC 8141. All registrations published as such templates are listed at https://www.iana.org/assignments/urn-namespaces/urn-namespaces.xhtml. 

ETSI has already made one namespace registration as a template, available at https://www.iana.org/assignments/urn-formal/etsi. 

[MRO] ETSI URN namespace was registered by creating an RFC (https://tools.ietf.org/search/rfc8515), and because of the nature of oneM2M, I considered that the same approach was needed. In addition, we already did an attempt to register the oneM2M URN namespace in the past (some years ago) and we followed that approach (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-fujimoto-urn-onem2m/history/).

All the best, 

Juha   

 

I would recommend that the registration template specify how the NSSs are to be compared, although looking at RFC 8141, it doesn't seem to be required.  (It used to be that specifying the comparison rule was important.)  I suspect that oneM2M intends to use case-sensitive comparison and largely assign NSSs in a single case.

[MRO] I will also consult this with oneM2M delegates.

Dale

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