Re: [urn] Formal request for URN for ITU

"Hakala, Juha E" <juha.hakala@helsinki.fi> Wed, 04 July 2018 10:28 UTC

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From: "Hakala, Juha E" <juha.hakala@helsinki.fi>
To: Scott Mansfield <scott.mansfield@ericsson.com>, "urn@ietf.org" <urn@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: Formal request for URN for ITU
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Subject: Re: [urn] Formal request for URN for ITU
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Hello Scott,

the only question I have is a generic one:

According to  2.5, the namespace is needed for identifiers defined by ITU.

ITU is closely involved with the Handle system:

http://www.itu.int/osg/csd/emerging_trends/handle_system/index.html

Does "identifiers defined by ITU" cover also Handles and if so, what is their relation to URNs? In other words, are there ITU sectors which use Handles as SectorResourceSpecificStrings? If there are, it might be better to assign URN namespace to Handles as well. As far as I know, ITU is the one organization which can make such a request, having adopted CNRI's Handle responsibilities.

You may have heard that International DOI Foundation is considering whether to send a request for URN namespace for DOIs. Although the political decision is still pending, Handle resolver has already been modified in such a way that each DOI can be expressed as actionable URN just by adding urn:doi: in front of the DOI prefix (note that such NID has not been registered the DOI system or some other identifier yet). I assume it would not be too difficult to make Handles actionable URNs as well, in e.g. urn:handle: namespace.

All the best,

Juha Hakala

From: urn <urn-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Scott Mansfield
Sent: maanantai 2. heinäkuuta 2018 17.03
To: urn@ietf.org
Subject: [urn] Formal request for URN for ITU

This is a request from International Telecommunication Union (ITU) for a namespace.

Please review and provide comments/revisions to ensure clarity and focus of the request.  The format of the request is in ID format capturing the information requested from Appendix A of RFC 8141.

Regards,
-scott.

Scott Mansfield
Ericsson Inc.
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