Re: [urn] Request for urn mrn

Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im> Wed, 26 July 2017 21:57 UTC

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From: Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im>
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Subject: Re: [urn] Request for urn mrn
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That is correct!

On 7/26/17 3:50 PM, Kasper Nielsen wrote:
> Hi Peter,
> 
> Sorry for the long delay was away on vacation.
> Am I right in understanding that as a general an application like mine
> would no longer have a RFC as an outcome?
> But "only" a registration of the namespace with IANA.
> 
> Best
>   Kasper
> 
> On 9 July 2017 at 01:17, Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im
> <mailto:stpeter@stpeter.im>> wrote:
> 
>     Hi Kaspar,
> 
>     The two most recent registrations (ISBN and ISSN) follow the new
>     template, and they are excellent examples:
> 
>     https://www.iana.org/assignments/urn-formal/isbn
>     <https://www.iana.org/assignments/urn-formal/isbn>
> 
>     https://www.iana.org/assignments/urn-formal/issn
>     <https://www.iana.org/assignments/urn-formal/issn>
> 
>     By the way, you no longer need to submit an Internet-Draft, although
>     that is helpful for purposes of review.
> 
>     Peter
> 
>     On 7/8/17 2:21 AM, Kasper Nielsen wrote:
>     > Hi Peter,
>     >
>     > Thank you so much for bringing this to my intention. I've modelled the
>     > draft after previous URN RFC submissions based on RFC 2141 + 3406, are
>     > there any RFCs following RFC 8141 that I can use as a basis for
>     > restructuring my submission? I have been unable to find any at
>     >
>     https://www.iana.org/assignments/urn-namespaces/urn-namespaces.xhtml
>     <https://www.iana.org/assignments/urn-namespaces/urn-namespaces.xhtml>
>     >
>     > I am especially struggling with the overall layout. I currently have
>     > these chapters
>     >
>     > Introduction
>     > Specification Template
>     >   Namespace ID
>     >   Registration Information
>     >   ...
>     > Examples
>     > Namespace Considerations
>     > Community Considerations
>     > Security Considerations
>     > IANA Considerations
>     >
>     > But in RFC 8141 all of these are put into a specification template.
>     > What overall structure should I use? Should I just put everything
>     into a
>     > specification chapter?
>     >
>     > Best
>     >   Kasper
>     >
>     >
>     > On 1 July 2017 at 23:51, Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im
>     <mailto:stpeter@stpeter.im>
>     > <mailto:stpeter@stpeter.im <mailto:stpeter@stpeter.im>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >     Hi Kaspar,
>     >
>     >     Thank you for working on this proposed namespace ID and for
>     the careful
>     >     documentation in Internet-Draft form.
>     >
>     >     RFC 2141 and RFC 3406 have been replaced by RFC 8141, and the
>     >     registration template has changed (based on many years of
>     experience
>     >     with registration of new namespaces). As a result, the
>     Internet-Draft
>     >     you have posted is not quite conformant to the new template
>     and process.
>     >     Please refer to RFC 8141 for details:
>     >
>     >     https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8141
>     <https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8141>
>     >     <https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8141
>     <https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8141>>
>     >
>     >     Please let us know when you have posted version -03 of the
>     specification
>     >     so that we can review it again.
>     >
>     >     Best Regards,
>     >
>     >     Peter
>     >
>     >     On 7/1/17 4:03 AM, Kasper Nielsen wrote:
>     >     > Greetings,
>     >     >
>     >     > On behalf of the International Association of Marine Aids to
>     >     Navigation
>     >     > and Lighthouse Authorities (IALA AISM) I would like to submit a
>     >     > registration request for the urn “mrn”.
>     >     >
>     >     > The International Association of Marine Aids to Navigation and
>     >     > Lighthouse Authorities (IALA) is a non-profit, international
>     technical
>     >     > association servicing more than 80 countries in the field of
>     >     marine aids
>     >     > to navigation.
>     >     >
>     >     > The detail about the request can be seen at
>     >     > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-knielsen-mrn-urn-02
>     <https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-knielsen-mrn-urn-02>
>     >     <https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-knielsen-mrn-urn-02
>     <https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-knielsen-mrn-urn-02>>
>     >     >
>     >     > Please contact me and let me know in case you need further
>     information
>     >     > to process the request.
>     >     >
>     >     > Best Regards
>     >     >
>     >     > Kasper Nielsen
>     >     >
>     >     > IT Architect
>     >     > Danish Maritime Authority
>     >     > Carl Jacobsens Vej 31
>     >     > 2500 Valby
>     >     > Denmark
>     >     > +45 26737340 <tel:%2B45%2026737340> <tel:%2B45%2026737340>
>     >     >
>     >
>     >