Re: ihave/sendme syntax (was: draft-allbery-usefor-usepro-00 errata)
"Charles Lindsey" <chl@clerew.man.ac.uk> Tue, 02 January 2007 05:14 UTC
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Subject: Re: ihave/sendme syntax (was: draft-allbery-usefor-usepro-00 errata)
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In <87k60aik36.fsf@windlord.stanford.edu> Russ Allbery <rra@stanford.edu> writes: >Russ Allbery <rra@stanford.edu> writes: >I've since reviewed RFC 1036 and Son-of-1036. The former makes the >relayer name optional and requires that the message IDs be in the control >header field. The latter makes the relayer name mandatory and RECOMMENDS >that the message IDs be put in the body. I think the following is the >most reasonable compromise; it makes the relayer-name mandatory if there >are no message IDs (the form never allowed in RFC 1036 but according to >Son-of-1036 the most widely used in practice), and if there are message >IDs, permits the same syntax as RFC 1036. I don't see why the optionality or otherwise of the <relayer-name> should correlate in any way with whether the list of msg-ids is in the header or the body (except to ensure that these headers never have empty content, which does not sound like a particularly good reason). So I would think it better to follow Son-of-1036 and make it obligatory regardless. I think we can assume that Henry had sufficient experience of the way Ihave and Sendme were used at that time that it is safe to follow his lead. In any case, the paragraph which follows explaining how to use these two headers is written on the assumption that a <relayer-name> will be provided. If any pair of existing relayers is currently using this protocol without <relayer-name>s, then good luck to them, and 'lang may their lum reek'. -- Charles H. Lindsey ---------At Home, doing my own thing------------------------ Tel: +44 161 436 6131 Fax: +44 161 436 6133 Web: http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~chl Email: chl@clerew.man.ac.uk Snail: 5 Clerewood Ave, CHEADLE, SK8 3JU, U.K. PGP: 2C15F1A9 Fingerprint: 73 6D C2 51 93 A0 01 E7 65 E8 64 7E 14 A4 AB A5
- draft-allbery-usefor-usepro-00 errata Russ Allbery
- Re: draft-allbery-usefor-usepro-00 errata Harald Alvestrand
- Re: draft-allbery-usefor-usepro-00 errata Charles Lindsey
- Re: draft-allbery-usefor-usepro-00 errata Charles Lindsey
- ASCII (was: draft-allbery-usefor-usepro-00 errata) Frank Ellermann
- ASCII (Re: draft-allbery-usefor-usepro-00 errata) Harald Alvestrand
- Re: ASCII (Re: draft-allbery-usefor-usepro-00 err… Charles Lindsey
- Re: ASCII (Re: draft-allbery-usefor-usepro-00 err… Russ Allbery
- Re: ASCII Russ Allbery
- Re: ASCII (Re: draft-allbery-usefor-usepro-00 err… Charles Lindsey
- Re: ASCII Frank Ellermann
- charset of application/news-{groupinfo,checkgroup… Russ Allbery
- Control message propagation (was: draft-allbery-u… Russ Allbery
- ihave/sendme syntax (was: draft-allbery-usefor-us… Russ Allbery
- to.* newsgroups (was: draft-allbery-usefor-usepro… Russ Allbery
- Path header field (was: draft-allbery-usefor-usep… Russ Allbery
- Re: draft-allbery-usefor-usepro-00 errata Russ Allbery
- Re: Control message propagation Frank Ellermann
- Re: Control message propagation Russ Allbery
- Re: Control message propagation Frank Ellermann
- Re: Control message propagation Frank Ellermann
- Re: Control message propagation Russ Allbery
- Re: Control message propagation Frank Ellermann
- Re: Control message propagation Russ Allbery
- Re: charset of application/news-{groupinfo,checkg… Charles Lindsey
- Re: charset of application/news-{groupinfo,checkg… Russ Allbery
- Re: ihave/sendme syntax (was: draft-allbery-usefo… Charles Lindsey
- Re: Control message propagation Charles Lindsey
- Re: Control message propagation Charles Lindsey
- Re: to.* newsgroups (was: draft-allbery-usefor-us… Charles Lindsey
- Re: Path header field Charles Lindsey
- Re: Control message propagation Russ Allbery
- Re: Control message propagation Charles Lindsey
- Re: Control message propagation Charles Lindsey
- Re: Control message propagation Charles Lindsey
- Re: Control message propagation Russ Allbery
- Re: Path header field Richard Clayton
- Re: Control message propagation (was: draft-allbe… Richard Clayton
- Re: Path header field (was: draft-allbery-usefor-… Richard Clayton
- Re: Control message propagation Russ Allbery
- Re: Control message propagation Russ Allbery
- Re: Path header field Charles Lindsey
- Re: charset of application/news-{groupinfo,checkg… Charles Lindsey
- Re: Control message propagation Charles Lindsey
- Re: charset of application/news-{groupinfo,checkg… Russ Allbery
- Re: charset of application/news-{groupinfo,checkg… Ned Freed
- Re: charset of application/news-{groupinfo,checkg… Charles Lindsey
- Minor change: USEPRO 4.2: charset wording (was: c… Russ Allbery
- Re: Path header field Frank Ellermann
- ISSUE: Control message propagation (was: Control … Frank Ellermann
- Re: Control message propagation Frank Ellermann
- ISSUE: USEPRO 5.3: Newsgroups header of cancel (w… Russ Allbery
- ISSUE: USEPRO 5.5: ihave/sendme syntax Russ Allbery
- Re: ISSUE: USEPRO 5.3: Newsgroups header of cancel Frank Ellermann
- Re: ISSUE: USEPRO 5.3: Newsgroups header of cancel Russ Allbery
- Re: ISSUE: USEPRO 5.3: Newsgroups header of cancel Frank Ellermann
- Minor change: Path wording (was: Path header fiel… Russ Allbery
- ISSUE: USEPRO 3.2.1: delimiter for multiple Path … Russ Allbery
- Re: ISSUE: USEPRO 5.5: ihave/sendme syntax Charles Lindsey
- Re: ISSUE: USEPRO 3.2.1: delimiter for multiple P… Charles Lindsey
- Re: Control message propagation Charles Lindsey
- Re: ISSUE: Control message propagation (was: Cont… Charles Lindsey
- Re: ISSUE: USEPRO 3.2.1: delimiter for multiple P… Russ Allbery
- Re: ISSUE: USEPRO 3.2.1: delimiter for multiple P… Charles Lindsey