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Re: [Uta] Eric Rescorla's Discuss on draft-ietf-uta-mta-sts-17: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

Leif Johansson <leifj@sunet.se> Tue, 08 May 2018 16:42 UTC

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To: Viktor Dukhovni <ietf-dane@dukhovni.org>, uta@ietf.org
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Subject: Re: [Uta] Eric Rescorla's Discuss on draft-ietf-uta-mta-sts-17: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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On 2018-05-08 18:30, Viktor Dukhovni wrote:
> 
> 
>> On May 8, 2018, at 12:05 PM, Daniel Margolis <dmargolis@google.com> wrote:
>>
>> I don't want to revisit anything unless it's going to be revisited for the last time, so I want some guidance from chairs here on how to finalize a resolution on this (one way or another).
> 
> Agreed.

It sounds like you guys agree at least. Does this reflect WG consensus
on this point?

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