Re: Some suggestions for draft-ietf-v6ops-cpe-simple-security-03

Rémi Després <remi.despres@free.fr> Wed, 27 August 2008 08:55 UTC

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Subject: Re: Some suggestions for draft-ietf-v6ops-cpe-simple-security-03
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Gert Doering   (m/j/a) 8/26/08 1:49 PM:
> On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 05:29:47PM -0700, Dan Wing wrote:
>> Internalt to external is permitted, by default, in the current document.
>>
>> We are discussing external to internal.  
> 
> What is "internal to external" is inevitably "external to internal" to
> someone else.
> 
> How do you solve "tunneling is permitted if solicited from the inside" for 
> the
> 
>   Host A --- CPE A ----[Internet]---- CBE B --- Host B
> 
> case?

In my understanding, there is no ambiguity.

Internal or External is defined only for a two-sided device the place of 
which is specified in the global Internet:
- External is toward the core (or the root) of the routing hierarchy, 
i.e. the side of the device where the 0/0 route goes (the "rest of the 
world").
- Internal is the opposite. It is toward the periphery (or the leaves) 
of the routing hierarchy, where the 0/0 route doesn't go.

Thus:
- A is internal to CPE A.
- CPE B and B are external to CPE A.
- A and CPE A are external to CPE B.
- B is internal to CPE B

Filtering control, if not dministrative, should always come from the 
internal side (from A to CPA A, from B to CPE B).

RD