Re: Some suggestions for draft-ietf-v6ops-cpe-simple-security-03

[Brian E Carpenter <[e-mail]>]

Hi Mark,

On 2008-08-24 23:15, Mark Smith wrote:
...
> 2.2.  Internet Layer Protocols
> 
> "Therefore, this document recommends the DEFAULT operating mode for
> residential IPv6 simple security is to permit all virtual private
> networking tunnel protocols to pass through the stateful filtering
> function.  These include IPsec transport and tunnel modes as well as
> other IP-in-IP protocols."
> 
> Would it be better to restrict this to authenticated tunnelling
> protocols? Wrapping a malicious packet inside a GRE or IP packet and
> having the CPE blindly forward it would seem to me to be a really
> simple and easy way to bypass all the security mechanisms that this
> draft is defining.

I would object to that. That amounts to default-deny for all
the commonly used ways of bypassing ISPs that don't support
IPv6, and that would be a Bad Thing.

I think a recommendation that CPEs should document and warn about
such risks is a good idea, rather in the manner of personal
firewalls that alert you the first time you try to tunnel out
with Protocol 41, but remember when you click OK. Can we recommend
default-warn rather than either default-deny or default-allow?

...
> A few thoughts related to general tunnel security. Is it appropriate for
> this draft to document...

How about referring to draft-ietf-v6ops-tunnel-security-concerns?
We should probably concentrate those issues in one place.

   Brian