Re: draft-jiang-incremental-CGN-00

[Brian Carpenter <[e-mail]>]

Dan,

We're describing a scenario. Obviously, there are other similar
scenarios. That's
why v6ops seems like the obvious place for a first discussion, imho.

   Brian

On 3/6/09, Dan Wing <[e-mail]> wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: [e-mail]
>  > [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Sheng Jiang
>  > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:29 AM
>  > To: 'Fred Baker'
>  > Cc: 'IPv6 Operations'; 'Brian Carpenter'
>  > Subject: RE: Agenda issue
>  >
>  > For sure. We know the draft name rules. When we wrote the
>  > draft, we were not sure
>  > which WG it should be submitted. It seems relevant to both
>  > v6ops and behave.
>
>  As a BEHAVE co-chair, I haven't seen a request for agenda time
>  for draft-jiang-incremental-CGN-00, nor any discussion about the
>  draft on the BEHAVE mailing list.
>
>  > We can fix it in 01 version by putting v6ops into the draft name.
>
>  Renaming a draft starts it at -00.
>
>
>  Anyway, regarding your draft:  it says that the CGN has to terminate
>  the 6-over-4 tunnel.  Couldn't some other device -- not necessarily
>  the CGN -- terminate that tunnel?  If so, then I believe your
>  proposal is very much just a NAT44 ("CGN") and a 6-over-4 tunnel
>  from the in-home gateway to some device that terminates the
>  tunnel and has IPv6 Internet connectivity.  This tunnel concentrator
>  might belong to the ISP providing IPv4 service, but it might also be
>  offered by someone else on the Internet (as a separate service), in
>  which case the 6-over-4 tunnel might actually go *across* the
>  service provider's NAT44 ("CGN").
>
>  -d
>
>
>  > Best regards,
>  >
>  > Sheng
>  >
>  > >-----Original Message-----
>  > >From: Fred Baker [mailto:[e-mail]]
>  > >Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 4:55 PM
>  > >To: Sheng Jiang
>  > >Cc: 'IPv6 Operations'; 'Brian Carpenter'
>  > >Subject: Re: Agenda issue
>  > >
>  > >OK. I truly wish you had put the working group moniker in the
>  > >draft name (individual submission to a named working group),
>  > >as it is hard to keep track of work in a working group with
>  > >individual submission names.
>  > >
>  > >On Mar 4, 2009, at 7:00 PM, Sheng Jiang wrote:
>  > >
>  > >> Hi, Fred,
>  > >>
>  > >> We have submitted a new draft,
>  > >draft-jiang-incremental-CGN-00. I think
>  > >> we are already on the vows agenda. Are we? If no yet, please
>  > >count us
>  > >> in.
>  > >> Thanks.
>  > >>
>  > >> Best regards,
>  > >>
>  > >> Sheng
>  > >>
>  > >>> -----Original Message-----
>  > >>> From: [e-mail]
>  > >>> [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Fred Baker
>  > >>> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:16 AM
>  > >>> To: IPv6 Operations
>  > >>> Subject: Agenda issue
>  > >>>
>  > >>> I have gotten a number of folks asking for time on the
>  > >agenda, but I
>  > >>> have a problem:
>  > >>>
>  > >>>
>  > >>> -rw-rw-r--  1 fred  fred   19268 Sep 10 05:33 draft-ietf-v6ops-ra-
>  > >>> guard-01.txt
>  > >>> -rw-rw-r--  1 fred  fred   61870 Sep 29 08:52 draft-miyata-v6ops-
>  > >>> snatpt-02.txt
>  > >>> -rw-rw-r--  1 fred  fred   48468 Oct  1 10:58 draft-endo-v6ops-
>  > >>> dnsproxy-01.txt
>  > >>> -rw-rw-r--  1 fred  fred   43841 Oct 15 10:48 draft-ietf-v6ops-
>  > >>> tunnel-
>  > >>> security-concerns-
>  > >>> 01.txt
>  > >>> -rw-rw-r--  1 fred  fred   18562 Oct 15 10:48
>  > draft-krishnan-v6ops-
>  > >>> teredo-update-04.txt
>  > >>> -rw-rw-r--  1 fred  fred   53090 Oct 30 10:22
>  > >draft-wbeebee-ipv6-cpe-
>  > >>> router-03.txt
>  > >>> -rw-rw-r--  1 fred  fred   36662 Nov  3 10:15
>  > >draft-bajko-v6ops-port-
>  > >>> restricted-ipaddr-a
>  > >>> ssign-02.txt
>  > >>> -rw-rw-r--  1 fred  fred   48973 Nov  3 11:06
>  > draft-luo-v6ops-6man-
>  > >>> shim6-lbam-00.txt
>  > >>> -rw-rw-r--  1 fred  fred   30429 Nov  3 14:26 draft-chown-v6ops-
>  > >>> rogue-
>  > >>> ra-02.txt
>  > >>> -rw-rw-r--  1 fred  fred  134587 Nov  3 16:14
>  > >>> draft-thaler-v6ops- teredo-extensions-02.tx t
>  > >>> -rw-rw-r--  1 fred  fred   16462 Feb 17 14:52
>  > draft-rgaglian-v6ops-
>  > >>> v6inixp-01.txt
>  > >>> -rw-rw-r--  1 fred  fred    9716 Feb 18 08:01
>  > draft-denis-v6ops-nat-
>  > >>> addrsel-00.txt
>  > >>> -rw-rw-r--  1 fred  fred   41369 Feb 23 22:05 draft-bnss-v6ops-
>  > >>> upnp-00.txt
>  > >>> -rw-rw-r--  1 fred  fred   19211 Mar  4 14:11
>  > >draft-vyncke-vdv-v6ops-
>  > >>> conf-stats-00.txt
>  > >>>
>  > >>>
>  > >>> I see four new drafts post-Minneapolis. The Rogue RA and Teredo
>  > >>> drafts, whose last call completed several months ago and
>  > >the write-up
>  > >>> is awaiting new drafts, don't have new drafts.
>  > >>>
>  > >>> Hello? Anyone out there? I need new drafts (cut-off date
>  > is Friday)
>  > >>> for anything folks expect to discuss in the WG meeting...
>  > >>>
>  > >>
>  > >
>  >
>  >
>
>