Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-linkova-v6ops-ipmaclimi-00.txt
Mark Smith <markzzzsmith@gmail.com> Tue, 08 November 2022 22:17 UTC
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From: Mark Smith <markzzzsmith@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2022 09:16:54 +1100
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-linkova-v6ops-ipmaclimi-00.txt
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On Tue, 8 Nov 2022, 23:39 Nick Hilliard, <nick@foobar.org> wrote: > Mark Smith wrote on 08/11/2022 12:19: > > So just using DHCPv6 doesn't inherently ensure this problem won't occur. > > In an SLAAC environment, the operator becomes hostage to the policies of > network clients. At least in DHCPv6, there is a mechanism for the > operator to manage this. > True. I'm just making the point that it can't be said that using DHCPv6 rather than SLAAC naturally prevents this problem, which seemed to be your assertion. These problems fundamentally exist because hosts are in a position to create state in network elements without getting authorisation and therefore exhaust that state capacity This is not a new problem, IPv4 ARP caches have always been vulnerable to state capacity exhaustion. There should be upper limits on how many resources an individual host can consume, however those limits need to reasonably allow hosts to do what they want to do, since the network exists to serve hosts. I don't have much exposure to hosts that are using many IPv6 addresses at once, so don't have any rough idea of what is typical to then recommend as a default minimum where there could be a resource default limit such as these wifi ND proxies. However, as RFC1681 seems to be the origin of IPv6 multi-addressing, and it suggested hosts should be allowed to have somewhere between 64 and 256 concurrent IPv6 addresses. Regards, Mark. > Nick >
- [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-l… Jen Linkova
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- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Chongfeng Xie
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- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Joel Jaeggli
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Xipengxiao
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Jen Linkova
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Nick Hilliard
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Jen Linkova
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Mark Smith
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Jen Linkova
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Jen Linkova
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- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Vasilenko Eduard
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- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Mark Smith
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- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Vasilenko Eduard
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