Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-townsley-troan-ipv6-ce-transitioning-00.txt
Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Sun, 18 December 2011 20:58 UTC
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-townsley-troan-ipv6-ce-transitioning-00.txt
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On 2011-12-18 16:59, Fred Baker wrote: > On Dec 13, 2011, at 5:21 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > >> It seems to assume that >> ingress filtering is inevitable, but this is very restrictive as far >> as seamless multihoming goes. If we can one day get to a situation >> where ingress filtering is automatically tailored for multihomed customers, >> we will need each SRIB entry to point to multiple DRIBs accordingly. > > To be really honest, I think you need to demonstrate that there is interest in achieving the nirvana you desire. Generally speaking, a service provider will do what you pay him to do, and anything that he can't describe in generic "service" terms will be generally offered, if at all, at a high price. Couple that with the general behavior of markets - seeking the lowest price for a reasonable set of services, and... Well yes, the market does what it does. If small users come to care deeply about multihoming, the incentive for ISPs to support flexible ingress filtering will arise and a solution will emerge. If the users don't care, there will be no incentive. My point is that we shouldn't write specs that unnecessarily constrain things that might be desirable. I think a tiny change will do that: MH-2: An IPv6 CE router MUST create an SRIB containing entries for associated delegated prefixes. Each entry points to one or more DRIBs. An entry points to multiple DRIBs only in the case where an identical delegated prefix is known to be routeable via multiple WAN interfaces. Brian Brian
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-townsley-troan-ipv6… Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-townsley-troan-ipv6… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-townsley-troan-ipv6… Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-townsley-troan-ipv6… Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-townsley-troan-ipv6… Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-townsley-troan-ipv6… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-townsley-troan-ipv6… Fred Baker
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-townsley-troan-ipv6… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-townsley-troan-ipv6… Wuyts Carl
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-townsley-troan-ipv6… Mark Townsley
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-townsley-troan-ipv6… Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-townsley-troan-ipv6… Gert Doering