Re: [v6ops] control and security of DHCP

Nick Hilliard <nick@foobar.org> Tue, 14 January 2014 17:45 UTC

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Subject: Re: [v6ops] control and security of DHCP
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On 14/01/2014 17:35, Ted Lemon wrote:
> VLAN tagging is an IEEE standard.

vlan tagging is something else.  Private vlans are vlans with vendor
specific internal segmentation so that some hosts cannot talk to other
hosts, even though they nominally inhabit the same vlan.  This is not
standardised in any meaningful way that I'm aware of and each vendor takes
their own approach per type of kit that they sell.  They have interesting
features which make them appropriate for some but not all shared tenancy
models.  Cisco documented some of their approach in rfc5517.

Nick