Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multicast-virtual-nodes
Nick Hilliard <nick@foobar.org> Sat, 20 September 2014 17:26 UTC
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multicast-virtual-nodes
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On 20/09/2014 15:15, Nalini Elkins wrote: > Situation: node A is on a subnet with 25 other nodes (B-Z) > > 1. Node A sends 10 ICMP ping requests to FF02::1 > 2. Nodes B through Z send Node A back ICMP 10 ping replies each > > Impact: with very little work by Node A, he has made B - Z do work & > created network congestion with 250+ packets. If the hosting provider has any sense, this will count towards node A's bandwidth allocation and if they persist in doing this, they will end up with a large bill as well as having trashed their connectivity. The lesson is that if you shoot yourself in the foot, it will hurt. If your network design is such that shooting yourself in the foot causes other hosts to be shot in the foot, then your network design may have a problem. If you are a commercial hosting provider who provides third party shared tenancy networks which use this design, then you should expect problems of this sort. Most hosting providers know these things and there is no need for the IETF to remind them. Nick
- [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multicast-v… fred
- Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multica… Andrew 👽 Yourtchenko
- Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multica… Nalini Elkins
- Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multica… Andrew 👽 Yourtchenko
- Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multica… Ackermann, Michael
- Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multica… Nalini Elkins
- Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multica… Andrew 👽 Yourtchenko
- Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multica… Nick Hilliard
- Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multica… Andrew 👽 Yourtchenko
- Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multica… Nick Hilliard
- Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multica… Nalini Elkins
- Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multica… Nalini Elkins
- Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multica… Nalini Elkins
- Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multica… Andrew 👽 Yourtchenko
- Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multica… Nalini Elkins
- Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multica… Andrew 👽 Yourtchenko
- Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multica… Nick Hilliard
- Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multica… Nalini Elkins
- Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multica… Nalini Elkins
- Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multica… Nick Hilliard
- Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multica… Nalini Elkins
- Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multica… Bill Cerveny
- Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multica… Ackermann, Michael
- Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multica… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multica… Nalini Elkins
- Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multica… sthaug
- Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multica… Bill Cerveny
- Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multica… sthaug
- Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multica… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multica… Nalini Elkins
- Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multica… Randy Bush
- [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multicast-v… fred
- Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multica… Ray Hunter