Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multicast-virtual-nodes
Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se> Mon, 22 September 2014 08:09 UTC
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From: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multicast-virtual-nodes
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On Sat, 20 Sep 2014, Nalini Elkins wrote: > So then, are you saying that the hosting company example we gave was for a > particularly ignorant or incompetent firm? That most hosting providers of IPv6 No, I think the general thinking is that they're of average ignorance and competency, which doesn't say much. The general advice both for IPv4 and IPv6 is not to put a huge amount of nodes in the same L2 domain. This has been true for 30 years, that's why IP replaced the L2 bridged protocols or lots-of-years-ago. If you're putting 284 nodes in the same broadcast domain, you're asking for trouble. My advice is to separate customers into separate L2 domains, or make sure your L2 infrastructure has some L3 functionality, for instance private-vlan or other filtering. So while your draft describes a problem that might be there, asking for nodes to not respond to link-local FF0x::1 ICMP ECHO REQUEST isn't the correct solution. Btw, how does the data center you've done testing on implement BCP38 so that the customers can't originate packets for addresses they do not "own"? -- Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike@swm.pp.se
- [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multicast-v… fred
- Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multica… Andrew 👽 Yourtchenko
- Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multica… Nalini Elkins
- Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multica… Andrew 👽 Yourtchenko
- Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multica… Ackermann, Michael
- Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multica… Nalini Elkins
- Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multica… Andrew 👽 Yourtchenko
- Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multica… Nick Hilliard
- Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multica… Andrew 👽 Yourtchenko
- Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multica… Nick Hilliard
- Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multica… Nalini Elkins
- Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multica… Nalini Elkins
- Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multica… Nalini Elkins
- Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multica… Andrew 👽 Yourtchenko
- Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multica… Nalini Elkins
- Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multica… Andrew 👽 Yourtchenko
- Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multica… Nick Hilliard
- Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multica… Nalini Elkins
- Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multica… Nalini Elkins
- Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multica… Nick Hilliard
- Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multica… Nalini Elkins
- Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multica… Bill Cerveny
- Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multica… Ackermann, Michael
- Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multica… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multica… Nalini Elkins
- Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multica… sthaug
- Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multica… Bill Cerveny
- Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multica… sthaug
- Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multica… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multica… Nalini Elkins
- Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multica… Randy Bush
- [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multicast-v… fred
- Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-elkins-v6ops-multica… Ray Hunter