Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv6rtr-reqs-04: Enabling DHCPv6 in the enterprise networks by default, if DHCPv6 is supported on the router

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Thu, 06 September 2018 20:34 UTC

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Subject: Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv6rtr-reqs-04: Enabling DHCPv6 in the enterprise networks by default, if DHCPv6 is supported on the router
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On 2018-09-07 02:24, Tim Chown wrote:
>> On 6 Sep 2018, at 14:01, Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo=40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 11:09 PM Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com> wrote:
>> Further, I don’t believe for one second that ALL enterprises will require or use DHCPv6. Perhaps most, but certainly not all. 
>>
>> +1. Ours doesn't.
> 
> And the requirement/use of configuration method, especially at a university campus, may vary between managed desktops and WiFi/eduroam where BYOD is the norm. 

If you base admission to the wired network on registered MAC addresses, which
is quite common, there seems to be no particular reason to waste resources
on DHCPv6 even for managed devices.

   Brian