Re: [v6ops] v6ops-host-addr-availability: A Little Pushback

"STARK, BARBARA H" <bs7652@att.com> Wed, 23 September 2015 13:32 UTC

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> > 3. Tethering and translation (like 464XLAT) tend to be really specific
> > to wireless networks. These are the most compelling benefits listed,
> > but they don't apply to enterprise and wireline.
> 
> Wrong.
> 
> 464XLAT can be used in any IPv6-only network, and the problem it solves
> -- "make AF_INET sockets work on with IPv6-only external connectivity"
> -- is solved equally well regardless of the technology of the external IPv6-
> only link.

Good point. OK, so I change my statement to say that translation (like 464XLAT) only applies in an IPv6-only network. I still contend that tethering is specific to "3GPP"-type-technology  wireless networks.
 
> OpenWrt, which most commonly has a wired upstream, does support
> 464XLAT CLAT operation.

I think of OpenWRT as router software. I'm not aware of any pure hosts using it.

> I use 464XLAT where needed in my data centres. This is all wired Ethernet, no
> wireless.

Do you use 464XLAT inside all the end hosts and offer IPv6-only to all hosts inside the data centers? Or do you use it at the edge, and provide IPv4 and IPv6 addresses to the hosts? The need to do translation (like 464XLAT) is listed in this draft as a justification for providing an IPv6 prefix to all end hosts inside all networks (including, presumably, inside data centers). I'm still not seeing that.
Barbara