Re: [v6ops] v6ops-host-addr-availability: A Little Pushback

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Subject: Re: [v6ops] v6ops-host-addr-availability: A Little Pushback
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On Thursday, September 24, 2015, Dan Drown <dan-v6ops@drown.org> wrote:

> Quoting Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo@google.com>:
> :
>
>> As someone who has worked on the ePDG implementation on Android devices, I
>> can assure you that the architecture that's used to ensure that the
>> baseband processor and the application processor could share an IP address
>> is pretty contorted - you might even say nightmarish.
>>
> :
>
>> <bhs> NAT66 is not something that hosts inside enterprise networks need to
>>> be worried about.
>>>
>>>
>> Why? I know lots of users of my enterprise network that run VMs, run
>> Android / iOS emulators on their development machines, use ePDG services,
>> etc. With only one /128 per host, you can'd to that without NAT66.
>>
>
> Because I didn't know what ePDG was before this, I had to look it up.
> Below is my summary of it, anyone who understands it better, please feel
> free to correct it.
>
> ePDG is a secure tunnel back to your cell phone operator, and wifi calling
> is one application that can run over it.  It runs on the baseband processor
> rather than the application processor of the phone.  There are two
> different operating systems running on these processors, and they need to
> share connectivity to the outside world.  With v4, I assume this is achived
> with NAT44 when connected to a wifi AP.
>
> Wifi calling is an application that's on millions of phones already.  I
> don't know if ePDG is a popular implementation or if there are any
> competing implementations.
>
>
Yes, ePDG is common implementation

CB

> With v6, the design of assigning a dedicated v6 address (from a prefix or
> a pool) to the baseband processor would make sense for this application, as
> it makes the phone's internal network easier to understand.  The
> alternatives would be to do NAT66 on the application processor or not have
> v6 on the baseband processor at all.
>
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