Re: [v6ops] new draft: draft-troan-v6ops-6to4-update

Tim Chown <tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk> Fri, 12 August 2011 14:07 UTC

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3484-bis should be being last called.   I'll pop Brian and Bob a mail.   The only slight question mark on it was a privacy bit indicator, but that can be resolved in WGLC.

Tim

On 12 Aug 2011, at 14:58, Philip Homburg wrote:

> In your letter dated Fri, 12 Aug 2011 09:34:59 -0400 you wrote:
>>> so that text should at least refer to 3484bis)
>> 
>> My impression from what I heard in Quebec City is that 3484-revise might =
>> still take a while to get through the 6man WG, and it seems that many =
>> people want an RFC that "updates" 6to4 to be issued as quickly as =
>> possible.  If 3484-revise were approved before -update is submitted, I =
>> agree that an explicit reference to 3484bis in -update would be =
>> appropriate.=20
> 
> I don't think a non-normative reference to RFC3484-revise would hurt.
> 
> It is directed at different products/parts of products anyhow. Keeping 
> 6to4 off by default applies to routers implementing 6to4 functionality.
> (And in theory also hosts with 6to4 functionality).
> 
> RFC3484-revise has to be implemented by each an every host even if the host
> doesn't do anything with 6to4 because a local router may provide 6to4 to
> the host.
> 
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