Re: [v6ops] Working Group Administrivia

Sheng Jiang <jiangsheng@huawei.com> Thu, 11 December 2014 02:24 UTC

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From: Sheng Jiang <jiangsheng@huawei.com>
To: "t.petch" <ietfc@btconnect.com>, "Fred Baker (fred)" <fred@cisco.com>, "v6ops@ietf.org" <v6ops@ietf.org>
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Hi, Tom,

Thanks for your offer.

Review and comments would be very helpful for us to improve. Following the latest discussion, there are two actions we are planning: A) focus on the implementation divergence rather than a protocol definition problem statement. The most of contents are already in the current document. It just needs a little bit reorganizing and rewording. B) some addition investigation or experiments, e.g. both DHCPv6 and ND have DNS configuration.

If you are interested to contribute, you are certainly welcome.

Best regards,

Sheng

>-----Original Message-----
>From: t.petch [mailto:ietfc@btconnect.com]
>Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 1:39 AM
>To: Sheng Jiang; Fred Baker (fred); v6ops@ietf.org
>Subject: Re: [v6ops] Working Group Administrivia
>
>Sheng
>
>If I read the e-mail addresses aright, you are the editor of
>draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem
>What do you want (that I might be able to do) bofore this is ready for
>WG Last Call?
>
>Tom Petch
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Sheng Jiang" <jiangsheng@huawei.com>
>To: "t.petch" <ietfc@btconnect.com>; "Fred Baker (fred)"
><fred@cisco.com>; <v6ops@ietf.org>
>Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 2:18 AM
>Subject: RE: [v6ops] Working Group Administrivia
>
>
>> >As Brian says in his note,
>> >
>> >2014-10-27           draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem
>>
>>http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem/
>> >
>> >addresses a known problem and I think it would be remiss of the IETF
>not
>> >to have this documented
>>
>> Fully agreed. My read from the latest meeting response is the problem
>should be document and know by operators and implementors. The
>controversial part is not this draft, but the follow up of this draft:
>>
>> 1) The solution (protocol level) is not belong to v6ops WG.
>>
>> 2) The real debate is Whether v6ops should produce an operational
>guidelines for operators to avoid this issue. Personally, I think it is
>helpful and belong to this WG, but it seems the WG does not reach
>consensus on this.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Sheng
>>
>> >Tom Petch
>> >
>> >
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From: "Fred Baker (fred)" <fred@cisco.com>
>> >To: <v6ops@ietf.org>
>> >Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 6:17 PM
>> >Subject: [v6ops] Working Group Administrivia
>> >
>> >
>> >Joel, Lee, and I spoke this morning about the status of the working
>> >group and various drafts in it. I’d like to gauge working group
>> >consensus on the status of a number of working group drafts that have
>> >either expired or otherwise should no longer be considered working
>group
>> >drafts. Your opinions, pro or con (such as “I’m fine with all that
>but
>> >think we should still be considering draft-whatever”), please:
>> >
>> >We think that the following can be safely set aside, by having the
>> >secretariat record (and show in the data tracker) that they are no
>> >longer working group drafts. They have expired, and are not currently
>> >being pursued:
>> >
>> >2003-01-13                     draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv4survey
>> >http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv4survey/
>> >2003-02-14                 draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv4survey-gen
>> >http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv4survey-gen/
>> >2004-07-20                  draft-ietf-v6ops-v6onbydefault
>> >http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-v6ops-v6onbydefault/
>> >2007-02-27             draft-ietf-v6ops-routing-guidelines
>> >http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-v6ops-routing-guidelines/
>> >2007-03-28              draft-ietf-v6ops-campus-transition
>> >http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-v6ops-campus-transition/
>> >2008-05-13         draft-ietf-v6ops-nat64-pb-statement-req
>>
>>http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-v6ops-nat64-pb-statement-req
>/
>> >2011-07-26             draft-ietf-v6ops-v4v6tran-framework
>> >http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-v6ops-v4v6tran-framework/
>> >2013-08-14                draft-ietf-v6ops-monitor-ds-ipv6
>> >http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-v6ops-monitor-ds-ipv6/
>> >
>> >We think that draft-ietf-v6ops-balanced-ipv6-security, in its current
>> >state, is a deployment report, primarily from Swisscom. While the
>> >working group expressed interest in guidance on firewall
>configuration,
>> >this isn’t it. We think it should no longer be a working group draft,
>> >and invite the authors to submit it to the independent stream as a
>> >deployment report (<rfc-ise@rfc-editor.org).
>> >
>> >2013-12-06         draft-ietf-v6ops-balanced-ipv6-security
>>
>>http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-v6ops-balanced-ipv6-security
>/
>> >
>> >Although the working group expressed interest in the following and
>the
>> >authors have been working hard on them, we think the working group is
>no
>> >longer interested in these, and so they should be returned to the
>> >authors and not recorded or treated as working group drafts.
>> >
>> >2014-09-18                 draft-ietf-v6ops-design-choices
>> >http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-v6ops-design-choices/
>> >2014-10-27           draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem
>>
>>http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem/
>> >2014-10-27      draft-ietf-v6ops-ula-usage-recommendations
>>
>>http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-v6ops-ula-usage-recommendati
>o
>> >ns/
>> >
>> >Speaking for myself, if I have any question of the above, it is on
>only
>> >one of these.
>> >
>> >If any draft has its "WG Draft" status revoked, it will still be
>> >available from the IETF website as far as I know, but subsequent
>> >revisions should be named as individual submissions to a working
>group,
>> >draft-<author>-<wg>-<subject> or individual submissions to the IETF,
>> >draft-<author>-<subject>. It would be good if the authors would send
>a
>> >note to internet-drafts@ietf.org indicating that the old draft name
>were
>> >replaced by the new draft name, so that the revision history is
>tracked
>> >appropriately.
>> >
>> >Opinions?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
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