Re: [v6ops] [Int-area] Still need to know what has changed.... Re: IPv10 draft (was Re: FW: v6ops - New Meeting Session Request for IETF 109 - IPv10)

Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@outlook.com> Fri, 25 September 2020 20:52 UTC

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From: Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@outlook.com>
To: Juan Carlos Zuniga <juancarlos.zuniga@sigfox.com>, Wassim Haddad <wassim.haddad@ericsson.com>
CC: "Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" <evyncke=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, IPv6 Operations <v6ops@ietf.org>, int-area <int-area@ietf.org>, Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com>, Juan Carlos Zuniga <j.c.zuniga@ieee.org>
Thread-Topic: [Int-area] Still need to know what has changed.... Re: IPv10 draft (was Re: FW: [v6ops] v6ops - New Meeting Session Request for IETF 109 - IPv10)
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] [Int-area] Still need to know what has changed.... Re: IPv10 draft (was Re: FW: v6ops - New Meeting Session Request for IETF 109 - IPv10)
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I still don't see any technical concerns received from the members, all are to understand the way how IPv10 works, some had a misunderstanding that’s why I wanted to answer all these question during the meeting so no duplicated questions be received.

It is good to take all into my account but regarding the running code, is out of my hands, so without your help, nothing will go forward.

Thanks Juan,

Khaled Omar

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Cc: Eric Vyncke (evyncke) <evyncke=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>; IPv6 Operations <v6ops@ietf.org>; int-area <int-area@ietf.org>; Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com>; Juan Carlos Zuniga <j.c.zuniga@ieee.org>
Subject: RE: [Int-area] Still need to know what has changed.... Re: IPv10 draft (was Re: FW: [v6ops] v6ops - New Meeting Session Request for IETF 109 - IPv10)

> 
> So, let me ask Eric if we can reserve a slot in the next meeting to 
> present IPv10.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Khaled Omar
> 

Khaled,

You have received significant feedback from representatives of network/cloud operators, network equipment vendors, mobile device makers, academia, SW providers and developers. 

We will not consider your draft for presentation until a version of your proposal responds to the different technical issues that have been pointed out.

If you are interested in pursuing, please update your draft taking into account all these considerations. Running code with proven results would also help.

Once you get positive support on the mailing list, we will gladly consider it for presentation at the meeting.

Best regards,

Juan Carlos Zuniga & Wassim Haddad
(Internet Area WG Chairs)