[v6ops] Comments on draft-ietf-v6ops-icp-guidance-04
SM <sm@resistor.net> Thu, 22 November 2012 10:56 UTC
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Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 02:44:57 -0800
To: Brian Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>, Sheng Jiang <jiangsheng@huawei.com>
From: SM <sm@resistor.net>
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Subject: [v6ops] Comments on draft-ietf-v6ops-icp-guidance-04
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Hi Brian, Sheng, I read draft-ietf-v6ops-icp-guidance-04. Here's a few comments. Please consider them as editorial or nits. In Section 2: "In determining the urgency of this strategy, it should be noted that the central IPv4 registry (IANA) ran out of spare blocks of IPv4 addresses in February 2011 and the various regional registries are expected to exhaust their reserves over the next one to two years." APNIC and RIPE are in run-out mode. It's unlikely that two of the regional registries will run out in a year or two. I like the "just in time" advice (Section 3). Training is ineffective if people do not have the means to put what they learned immediately into practice. In Section 8.2: "One important recommendation here is that all applications should use domain names, which are IP-version-independent, rather than IP addresses." This recommendation could be about content instead of applications. Web pages with content such as "http\x3a\x2f\x2f131.253.14.66\x2fbvsandbox.aspx" can be avoided. It looks like you have this covered under "possible complexities". "A specific issue for HTTP-based services is that IP address-based cookie authentication schemes will need to deal with dual-stack clients." I don't see the following being covered in the recommendations. Set-Cookie: domain=131.253.14.66; [edited header] In Section 9: 'At the time of this writing, this solution seems to be passing out of use, being replaced by "DNS blacklisting" of customer sites known to have problems with IPv6 connectivity.' Given the past discussions about "whitelisting" (see RFC 5782) I'll highlight this and avoid the rehash. Regards, -sm
- [v6ops] Comments on draft-ietf-v6ops-icp-guidance… SM
- Re: [v6ops] Comments on draft-ietf-v6ops-icp-guid… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] Comments on draft-ietf-v6ops-icp-guid… joel jaeggli
- Re: [v6ops] Comments on draft-ietf-v6ops-icp-guid… SM
- Re: [v6ops] Comments on draft-ietf-v6ops-icp-guid… SM
- Re: [v6ops] Comments on draft-ietf-v6ops-icp-guid… Sheng Jiang