Re: [v6ops] DHCPv6/SLAAC Interaction Operational Guidance-//RE: new draft: draft-liu-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-guidance
Alexandru Petrescu <alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com> Wed, 08 January 2014 12:46 UTC
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] DHCPv6/SLAAC Interaction Operational Guidance-//RE: new draft: draft-liu-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-guidance
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Le 08/01/2014 08:05, Lorenzo Colitti a écrit : > Authors, > > I see this document has a "Guidance for DHCPv6-only Deployment" section > which mentions "DHCPv6-only configuration without RAs". Three points on > that: > > 1. We had a discussion on this topic when discussing the problem > statement draft a couple of weeks ago, and I thought we had agreed that > a DHCPv6-only configuration without RAs doesn't do anything useful at > all, and since it doesn't do anything useful at all, it should not be > documented. See for example at > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/v6ops/current/msg18231.html > > If it's not documented in the problem statement document because it > doesn't do anything useful, then it certainly should not be documented > in the guidance to operators document. And in fact, the draft already > states that "this is an invalid use case". > > Can you remove it, then? As an operational group we don't want to > provide guidance on invalid use cases. :-) > > > 2. That section should also make it clear that in a DHCPv6-only deployment: > > * If there is no RA, the addresses assigned by DHCPv6 cannot be used > for anything at all. Lorenzo - you keep saying that but does it have any practical basis? Have you tried it? Alex > * If there is an RA that specifies a default router but does not > specify the on-link prefix, then all traffic, even between hosts on > the same link, is routed at layer 3 by the default gateway. > > > 3. Please do not cite [DHCPv6-ROUTE]. That document was so controversial > that it was removed from the WG's charter and is no longer a WG item, so > it is inappropriate to cite it in an operational guidance document. > > Cheers, > Lorenzo > > > On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 4:59 PM, Liubing (Leo) <leo.liubing@huawei.com > <mailto:leo.liubing@huawei.com>> wrote: > > Hi Dear All, > > In ietf88 meeting, we discussed > draft-liu-bonica-dhcpv6-slaac-problem which indicated the hosts' > behavior might varied on DHCPv6/SLAAC interaction caused by > ambiguous standard definition. (The draft was adopted as > ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem after the meeting.) > > Since the above draft is only filed as a Problem Statement document, > as discussed in the meeting, the WG decided to initiate another > draft to provide some operational guidance of what the > administrators should do given the fact that the host behavior might > varied in some situations. > > So this is the 00 version. Hope you can read it and comment. > Your review and comments would be appreciated very much. > > And a late happy new year to you all. > > Best regards > Bing > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: v6ops [mailto:v6ops-bounces@ietf.org > <mailto:v6ops-bounces@ietf.org>] On Behalf Of fred@cisco.com > <mailto:fred@cisco.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2013 9:45 PM > > To: v6ops@ietf.org <mailto:v6ops@ietf.org> > > Cc: draft-liu-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-guidance@tools.ietf.org > <mailto:draft-liu-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-guidance@tools.ietf.org> > > Subject: [v6ops] new draft: draft-liu-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-guidance > > > > > > A new draft has been posted, at > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-liu-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-guidance. > Please > > take a look at it and comment. > > _______________________________________________ > > v6ops mailing list > > v6ops@ietf.org <mailto:v6ops@ietf.org> > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v6ops > _______________________________________________ > v6ops mailing list > v6ops@ietf.org <mailto:v6ops@ietf.org> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v6ops > > > > > _______________________________________________ > v6ops mailing list > v6ops@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v6ops >
- Re: [v6ops] DHCPv6/SLAAC Interaction Operational … Karsten Thomann
- Re: [v6ops] DHCPv6/SLAAC Interaction Operational … Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [v6ops] DHCPv6/SLAAC Interaction Operational … Lorenzo Colitti
- [v6ops] new draft: draft-liu-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-g… fred
- [v6ops] DHCPv6/SLAAC Interaction Operational Guid… Liubing (Leo)
- Re: [v6ops] DHCPv6/SLAAC Interaction Operational … Liubing (Leo)
- Re: [v6ops] DHCPv6/SLAAC Interaction Operational … Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] DHCPv6/SLAAC Interaction Operational … sthaug
- Re: [v6ops] DHCPv6/SLAAC Interaction Operational … Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] DHCPv6/SLAAC Interaction Operational … Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] DHCPv6/SLAAC Interaction Operational … Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] DHCPv6/SLAAC Interaction Operational … sthaug
- Re: [v6ops] DHCPv6/SLAAC Interaction Operational … Liubing (Leo)
- Re: [v6ops] DHCPv6/SLAAC Interaction Operational … Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] DHCPv6/SLAAC Interaction Operational … Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] DHCPv6/SLAAC Interaction Operational … Rajiv Asati (rajiva)
- Re: [v6ops] DHCPv6/SLAAC Interaction Operational … Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] DHCPv6/SLAAC Interaction Operational … Rajiv Asati (rajiva)
- Re: [v6ops] DHCPv6/SLAAC Interaction Operational … Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] DHCPv6/SLAAC Interaction Operational … Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] DHCPv6/SLAAC Interaction Operational … Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] DHCPv6/SLAAC Interaction Operational … Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] DHCPv6/SLAAC Interaction Operational … Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [v6ops] DHCPv6/SLAAC Interaction Operational … Karsten Thomann
- Re: [v6ops] DHCPv6/SLAAC Interaction Operational … Owen DeLong
- Re: [v6ops] DHCPv6/SLAAC Interaction Operational … Owen DeLong
- Re: [v6ops] DHCPv6/SLAAC Interaction Operational … Rajiv Asati (rajiva)
- Re: [v6ops] DHCPv6/SLAAC Interaction Operational … sthaug
- Re: [v6ops] DHCPv6/SLAAC Interaction Operational … Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] DHCPv6/SLAAC Interaction Operational … Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] DHCPv6/SLAAC Interaction Operational … Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] DHCPv6/SLAAC Interaction Operational … Liubing (Leo)
- Re: [v6ops] DHCPv6/SLAAC Interaction Operational … Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [v6ops] DHCPv6/SLAAC Interaction Operational … Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] DHCPv6/SLAAC Interaction Operational … sthaug
- Re: [v6ops] DHCPv6/SLAAC Interaction Operational … Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] DHCPv6/SLAAC Interaction Operational … Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [v6ops] DHCPv6/SLAAC Interaction Operational … Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] DHCPv6/SLAAC Interaction Operational … Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [v6ops] DHCPv6/SLAAC Interaction Operational … sthaug
- Re: [v6ops] DHCPv6/SLAAC Interaction Operational … Tore Anderson
- Re: [v6ops] DHCPv6/SLAAC Interaction Operational … Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] DHCPv6/SLAAC Interaction Operational … Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] DHCPv6/SLAAC Interaction Operational … Tore Anderson
- Re: [v6ops] DHCPv6/SLAAC Interaction Operational … Tore Anderson
- Re: [v6ops] DHCPv6/SLAAC Interaction Operational … Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] DHCPv6/SLAAC Interaction Operational … Tore Anderson
- Re: [v6ops] DHCPv6/SLAAC Interaction Operational … Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] DHCPv6/SLAAC Interaction Operational … Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [v6ops] DHCPv6/SLAAC Interaction Operational … Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] DHCPv6/SLAAC Interaction Operational … Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] DHCPv6/SLAAC Interaction Operational … Nick Hilliard
- Re: [v6ops] DHCPv6/SLAAC Interaction Operational … Tore Anderson
- Re: [v6ops] DHCPv6/SLAAC Interaction Operational … Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [v6ops] DHCPv6/SLAAC Interaction Operational … Nick Hilliard
- Re: [v6ops] DHCPv6/SLAAC Interaction Operational … Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] DHCPv6/SLAAC Interaction Operational … Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] DHCPv6/SLAAC Interaction Operational … Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] DHCPv6/SLAAC Interaction Operational … Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] DHCPv6/SLAAC Interaction Operational … Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [v6ops] DHCPv6/SLAAC Interaction Operational … Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] DHCPv6/SLAAC Interaction Operational … t.petch
- Re: [v6ops] DHCPv6/SLAAC Interaction Operational … Alexandru Petrescu