Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-prefix-per-host-02 - multiple prefixes per device

Gert Doering <gert@space.net> Fri, 17 March 2017 13:06 UTC

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From: Gert Doering <gert@space.net>
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-prefix-per-host-02 - multiple prefixes per device
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Hi,

On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 01:05:35PM +0100, Alexandre Petrescu wrote:
> > But seriously: how many visitors of said coffee shop would need more
> > than a /64?
> Many visitors use smartphone-smartwatch combinations.

Those do not need multiple *networks*.

> > Yes, I've heard about the laptop with the VMs running,
> Smartphones run VMs too, not only laptops.

Really?  So these need multiple *networks* to number the VMs?

> > in multiple hierarchical virtual networks, and such.  How many of
> > those laptops exist?  100, 1000?  This is totally niche.
> 
> Even for a 100-sized niche, one needs to plan for 100 times multiple /64 
> prefixes per unit.
> 
> Even for a 100-sized niche, one can't plan to use a single /64 per unit.

"100 world wide", and we should not engineer for those.  They will find
ways to make their stuff work, grumbling about stupid protocols and
everything.

> > Normal users want their browsing, e-mail and corporate VPN to work.
> 
> New ways dont do any browsing, email or corporate VPN.  They do 
> purpose-specific messaging and project management apps.  Often they 
> neeed simultaneity between multiple independent such apps - easier with VMs.

All that is "talk to internet from clients", and a whole /64 per device
would be extremely plenty for that.

You need more than a /64 if you have routed topologies, which you just
do not *have* inside your smartwatch.

Gert Doering
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have you enabled IPv6 on something today...?

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