Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-prefix-per-host-02 - multiple prefixes per device
Gert Doering <gert@space.net> Fri, 17 March 2017 13:06 UTC
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From: Gert Doering <gert@space.net>
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-prefix-per-host-02 - multiple prefixes per device
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Hi, On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 01:05:35PM +0100, Alexandre Petrescu wrote: > > But seriously: how many visitors of said coffee shop would need more > > than a /64? > Many visitors use smartphone-smartwatch combinations. Those do not need multiple *networks*. > > Yes, I've heard about the laptop with the VMs running, > Smartphones run VMs too, not only laptops. Really? So these need multiple *networks* to number the VMs? > > in multiple hierarchical virtual networks, and such. How many of > > those laptops exist? 100, 1000? This is totally niche. > > Even for a 100-sized niche, one needs to plan for 100 times multiple /64 > prefixes per unit. > > Even for a 100-sized niche, one can't plan to use a single /64 per unit. "100 world wide", and we should not engineer for those. They will find ways to make their stuff work, grumbling about stupid protocols and everything. > > Normal users want their browsing, e-mail and corporate VPN to work. > > New ways dont do any browsing, email or corporate VPN. They do > purpose-specific messaging and project management apps. Often they > neeed simultaneity between multiple independent such apps - easier with VMs. All that is "talk to internet from clients", and a whole /64 per device would be extremely plenty for that. You need more than a /64 if you have routed topologies, which you just do not *have* inside your smartwatch. Gert Doering -- NetMaster -- have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) Tel: +49 (0)89/32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… Ron Bonica
- [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-prefix… Ron Bonica
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… Tim Chown
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… otroan
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… joel jaeggli
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… Fred Baker
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… otroan
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… Tim Chown
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… otroan
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… otroan
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… otroan
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… james woodyatt
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… Mark Andrews
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… Joe Touch
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… Philip Homburg
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… Mark Andrews
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… Ross Chandler
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… Ross Chandler
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… Ross Chandler
- Re: [v6ops] WGLC: draft-ietf-v6ops-unique-ipv6-pr… Templin, Fred L