Re: [VCARDDAV] New Date Range Proposal
Cyrus Daboo <cyrus@daboo.name> Thu, 14 October 2010 13:14 UTC
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Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 09:15:28 -0400
From: Cyrus Daboo <cyrus@daboo.name>
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Subject: Re: [VCARDDAV] New Date Range Proposal
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Hi Markus, --On October 14, 2010 9:34:39 AM +0200 Markus Lorenz <lorenz@atlantika-arts.net> wrote: > What about a formal description like: > > date-range = date-and-or-time "/" date-and-or-time > > date-range-list = date-range *("," date-range) > > I'm not sure if "date-and-or-time" is the best solution, as it would > allow values with only time and no date. But at the moment I couldn't > think of a reason not to allow that. It shouldn't be the problem of the > vCard format whether or not a given date-range is meaningful. > > With "date-range-list" we're quite near to being able to define business > hours for work phone numbers. We'd only have to introduce weekdays. > Don't know if anyone would like that. I guess this information could > already be included in the iCalendar to which FBURL points. At least for > the whole vCard and not a specific communications property. Well that is a slippery slope because if you want to refer to recurring times then you need to take timezones (Daylight Saving Time rules) into account. I really don't think we should go there. If we do stick with a full date-time option here then we need to be clear about the timezone - either we pick UTC always, or allow a TZID parameter to be encoded somehow, but that would be awkward given that this item is itself a parameter. What I would prefer is to drop the time component altogether and just go with dates only - I think that covers the majority of use cases and is sufficient level of granularity. If you want to specify something like work hours etc then that should be done by a pointer to an iCalendar object (or we define a way to embed an iCalendar object directly in the vCard - which is interesting because we also want to have iCalendar objects that reference vCards). -- Cyrus Daboo
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