Re: [VCARDDAV] New Date Range Proposal

Markus Lorenz <lorenz@atlantika-arts.net> Thu, 14 October 2010 14:50 UTC

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Subject: Re: [VCARDDAV] New Date Range Proposal
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Am 14.10.2010 15:15, schrieb Cyrus Daboo:
> Hi Markus,
> 
> --On October 14, 2010 9:34:39 AM +0200 Markus Lorenz
> <lorenz@atlantika-arts.net> wrote:
> 
>> What about a formal description like:
>>
>>    date-range = date-and-or-time "/" date-and-or-time
>>
>>    date-range-list = date-range *("," date-range)
>>
>> I'm not sure if "date-and-or-time" is the best solution, as it would
>> allow values with only time and no date. But at the moment I couldn't
>> think of a reason not to allow that. It shouldn't be the problem of the
>> vCard format whether or not a given date-range is meaningful.
>>
>> With "date-range-list" we're quite near to being able to define business
>> hours for work phone numbers. We'd only have to introduce weekdays.
>> Don't know if anyone would like that. I guess this information could
>> already be included in the iCalendar to which FBURL points. At least for
>> the whole vCard and not a specific communications property.
> 
> Well that is a slippery slope because if you want to refer to recurring
> times then you need to take timezones (Daylight Saving Time rules) into
> account. I really don't think we should go there. If we do stick with a
> full date-time option here then we need to be clear about the timezone -
> either we pick UTC always, or allow a TZID parameter to be encoded
> somehow, but that would be awkward given that this item is itself a
> parameter.

You're right. It would become much to complex. I was just venting my
thoughts. :)

> What I would prefer is to drop the time component altogether and just go
> with dates only - I think that covers the majority of use cases and is
> sufficient level of granularity. If you want to specify something like
> work hours etc then that should be done by a pointer to an iCalendar
> object (or we define a way to embed an iCalendar object directly in the
> vCard - which is interesting because we also want to have iCalendar
> objects that reference vCards).

+1