Re: [webfinger] Vision for Webfinger - what are we doing?
Eric Mill <eric@konklone.com> Wed, 16 October 2013 15:39 UTC
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Subject: Re: [webfinger] Vision for Webfinger - what are we doing?
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This is all helpful to hear, and I hope these all come to fruition, especially OpenID Connect. I'll take a stab at setting up my own OpenID Connect service on my domain and see how it feels. I guess it's inevitable that we have to hope the big companies make a meaningful gesture, too. Giving Google's outdated Webfinger endpoint<https://gmail.com/.well-known/host-meta> for Gmail a big update would be a great start. On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Paul E. Jones <paulej@packetizer.com>wrote: > Eric, > > OpenID is not entirely dead, yet. I still run my own OpenID OP server and > use it to log into some sites. I still allow OpenID logins on > forums.packetizer.com, too. It's still in use, but the large sites just > didn't have enough users using it, so they axed it. On its heels, though, > is now OpenID Connect and it will use WebFinger for discovery. so, sure... > push it :-) > > Personally, I can think of a lot of good uses for WebFinger: > * When I log onto a web site, I want the site to grab my name an picture > automatically. > * If I want somebody to send me bitcoins, I'd much rather give them my > email address (and I do have that in my WF account) > * My contact info is published via WebFinger, so I don't have to give > people a lot of info on a business card > * WebFinger will hopefully be used as the starting point for > auto-provisioning of email clients or other devices and applications where > one has to enter server and port information > > Paul > > > On 10/14/2013 11:21 PM, Eric Mill wrote: > > Hey all, > > I was at a hackathon <http://fedscoop.com/code-dc-calls-furloughed-feds/> today, > and spent the day working on Webfinger libraries for Sinatra<https://github.com/konklone/sinatra-webfinger>and > Jekyll <https://github.com/konklone/jekyll-webfinger>. It was really > productive, but -- at the end of the day, a reporter was there asking > everybody questions about their projects. > > When he asked what Webfinger was for, I realized that the original > easy-to-communicate killer app for Webfinger, easing universal login > through OpenID, was<http://productblogarchive.37signals.com/products/2011/01/well-be-retiring-our-support-of-openid-on-may-1.html> > dead <https://www.myopenid.com/>. The only thing I could think to say was > "Remember OpenID? Before it died? Well, this is a piece of the puzzle to > putting something like that back together again." > > That didn't feel like a very impressive answer. So, now that OpenID is > dead, what's the one line explanation for why Webfinger is important? > What's the path forward to making Webfinger something people are > incentivized to support? > > Should we be pushing really hard to resuscitate OpenID via OpenID > Connect? Do we just need to wait for internal lobbying inside of > Google/Microsoft/Twitter/etc to pay off in some announcement? I know > Webfinger supports more than email lookup -- is there some particular > killer app people were envisioning when they lobbied for that feature? > > I'm so happy there's finally an RFC, after so many years. I recognize > how much work was put in to make that happen, and this shouldn't be taken > as a criticism of anyone. I just want to know what others see for the > future of Webfinger, and what I should do next. > > -- Eric > > -- > konklone.com | @konklone <https://twitter.com/konklone> > > > _______________________________________________ > webfinger mailing listwebfinger@ietf.orghttps://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/webfinger > > > > _______________________________________________ > webfinger mailing list > webfinger@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/webfinger > > -- konklone.com | @konklone <https://twitter.com/konklone>
- [webfinger] Vision for Webfinger - what are we do… Eric Mill
- Re: [webfinger] Vision for Webfinger - what are w… Brad Fitzpatrick
- Re: [webfinger] Vision for Webfinger - what are w… Paul E. Jones
- Re: [webfinger] Vision for Webfinger - what are w… Kingsley Idehen
- Re: [webfinger] Vision for Webfinger - what are w… Melvin Carvalho
- Re: [webfinger] Vision for Webfinger - what are w… Eric Mill
- Re: [webfinger] Vision for Webfinger - what are w… Eric Mill
- Re: [webfinger] Vision for Webfinger - what are w… Bob Wyman
- Re: [webfinger] Vision for Webfinger - what are w… Melvin Carvalho
- Re: [webfinger] Vision for Webfinger - what are w… Eric Mill
- Re: [webfinger] Vision for Webfinger - what are w… Bob Wyman
- Re: [webfinger] Vision for Webfinger - what are w… Eric Mill
- Re: [webfinger] Vision for Webfinger - what are w… Kingsley Idehen