Re: [Webpush] draft-chiussi-webpush-subscription-less-framework-01 and request for feedback on Subscription Management

Fabio Chiussi <> Mon, 02 November 2015 23:25 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Webpush] draft-chiussi-webpush-subscription-less-framework-01 and request for feedback on Subscription Management
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Sorry for not adding the link, the document is listed in the WG page.


On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 9:11 AM, Benjamin Bangert <>

> Is there a link to this document I can read?
> Thanks,
> Ben
> On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 6:27 PM, Fabio Chiussi <>
> wrote:
>> Hi All,
>> I submitted a new draft: draft-chiussi-webpush-subscription-less-framework-01,
>> which I will briefly present at the WG meeting tomorrow. This draft
>> discusses two issues: i) a number of relevant use cases for webpush may
>> benefit from a "relaxed" model of subscription, and ii) there is an
>> emerging need for global management of webpush traffic across applications.
>> As a possible solution for both issues, this draft advocates the
>> introduction of a notion of trusted "Subscription Authority" in charge of
>> controlling webpush traffic to each UA.
>> Beyond the specific solution proposed in this draft, I would like to
>> solicit feedback from the mailing list on the more general issue of
>> Subscription Management, which we can discuss tomorrow at the meeting.
>> Specifically, any comments would be greatly appreciated on the following.
>> 1. For the reasons outlined in the draft, Subscription Management seems a
>> very relevant practical issue that needs to be addressed.
>> 2. In the current core protocol WG document, Subscription Management is
>> only addressed in passing, by assuming some kind of control policy in
>> assigning the subscriptions. At this time, neither the issues and use cases
>> related to Subscription Management, nor the possible solutions have been
>> fully studied in the draft. I think this is simply due to the fact that the
>> core protocol design, for obvious reasons, has been the focus of the work
>> so far, and there has not been sufficient time yet to fully address other
>> relevant issues, such as Subscription Management
>> 3. However, the state of the work on the core protocol design has reached
>> sufficient maturity that the WG should start considering to address some of
>> these other topics as well. Subscription Management seems a critical and
>> urgent one, since it has very important practical ramifications. The
>> solution proposed in this draft is simply one of possible candidates, and
>> Subscription Management certainly deserves a more comprehensive study, and
>> possibly develop a framework for Subscription Management. Because of its
>> practical relevancy, subscription Management should become a WG item.
>> I'll compile any comments that the mailing list may have on these topics,
>> and bring them forward for discussion at the meeting tomorrow.
>> Thanks,
>> Fabio
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