Re: [EXTERNAL] Question about Codimd for w.g. minutes

Kyle Rose <krose@krose.org> Thu, 29 July 2021 18:11 UTC

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From: Kyle Rose <krose@krose.org>
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2021 14:10:40 -0400
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Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Question about Codimd for w.g. minutes
To: "Deen, Glenn (NBCUniversal)" <Glenn.Deen@nbcuni.com>
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Interesting. I think CodiMD is rendering incorrectly, because markdown
intentionally ignores single newlines: if CodiMD wants a line break, it
should insert *two* newlines (a paragraph break) or two spaces at the end
of a line (line break) to get that effect. I would avoid the issue entirely
by using bullets to delineate elements.

Kyle

On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 1:47 PM Deen, Glenn (NBCUniversal) <
Glenn.Deen@nbcuni.com> wrote:

> Bob,
>
> I see the wrapping problem at times as well when reading the minutes from
> datatracker.
>
> Here'e the raw ADD@110 minutes from CODIMD.
> https://codimd.ietf.org/notes-ietf-110-add  which formats fine.
>
> Here's the datatracker version:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/110/materials/minutes-110-add-202103091530-00.md
> which has wrap problems.
>
>
> The Datatracker version does preserve markdown coded links correctly, but
> the text lines are being wrapped together.
>
> Could this be a typing problem coming out of datatracker?     Datatracker
> does recognize that it's a markdown file as I'm accessing it via the
> "markdown" version link in tracker and it has a .md extension.
>
> -glenn
>
>
> On 7/29/21, 10:38 AM, "Bob Hinden" <bob.hinden@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     Kyle, Glenn,
>
>     I gave downloading the markdown and uploading that to the
> Datatracker.  That works, but the discussion are getting wrapped when I
> open the link in Safari and Crome.  For example:
>
>     Toerless Eckert: Very nice. Any experience from ECN experimental?
> Gorry Fairhurst: ECN is standards. Second generation of ECN. Unable to
> help. Gorry Fairhurst: Original is currently proposed standards. Toerless
> Eckert: I think we could be consistent on that. You made it experimental
> because you don't want to explore some things? Gorry Fairhurst: Original
> ecn appears to be more unexperimental. We can do whatever 6man wants us to.
> Geoff Huston: Not everybody can do it overnight. It effects every router
> along the path. The real question is that how partial deployment will
> impact. Bob Hinden: We expect there will be mixed implementations for a
> while. Gorry do you want to say more? Gorry Fairhurst: Not replace the PMTU
> discovery. If you have some routers that can discover, then
>
>     In Codimd it displays fine with appropriate line breaks.
>
>     I have tried several ways to capture the markdown (download, copy and
> paste), all have the same results.
>
>     Suggestions?   I could do an editing pass to fix this, but would
> prefer to avoid that.
>
>     Bob
>
>
>     > On Jul 29, 2021, at 10:09 AM, Kyle Rose <krose@krose.org> wrote:
>     >
>     > I download the markdown and then upload it to the data tracker. The
> 111 MOPS minutes, for instance:
>     >
>     > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/minutes-111-mops/
>     >
>     > It requires your browser/OS to understand and present the markdown
> mime type when uploading, which has led to some frustration (and confused
> attempts at helping) in the past.
>     >
>     > Kyle
>     >
>     > On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 12:59 PM Deen, Glenn (NBCUniversal) <
> Glenn.Deen@nbcuni.com> wrote:
>     > Hi Bob,
>     >
>     > More cut and paste into a new local notes.md file out of the codimd
> notepad which are marked up with markdown, but yes.
>     >
>     > -glenn
>     >
>     > On 7/29/21, 9:42 AM, "Bob Hinden" <bob.hinden@gmail.com> wrote:
>     >
>     >     Glenn,
>     >
>     >     To clarify, so you download Markdown and then upload that to the
> Datatracker?
>     >
>     >     Bob
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >     > On Jul 29, 2021, at 9:15 AM, Deen, Glenn (NBCUniversal) <
> Glenn.Deen@nbcuni.com> wrote:
>     >     >
>     >     > Bob,
>     >     >
>     >     > I've done a light cleanup - both for English and markdown -
> and then upload them.   Since I also create the WG agenda as markdown when
> making it, this goes as the seed for the cotimd notes ahead of the meeting
> the result is the notes are then all in markdown along with working links
> etc.   that live in the notes document and work for future readers.
>     >     >
>     >     >
>     >     > -glenn
>     >     >
>     >     > On 7/29/21, 8:48 AM, "WGChairs on behalf of Bob Hinden" <
> wgchairs-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of bob.hinden@gmail.com> wrote:
>     >     >
>     >     >    What’s the best practice to convert and/or publish minutes
> taken with codimd?   I have managed to so something in past meetings, but
> usually try a few things.
>     >     >
>     >     >    Is there a best practice?  What do you do?
>     >     >
>     >     >    Bob
>     >     >
>     >     >
>     >
>     >
>
>
>