Re: [EXTERNAL] Question about Codimd for w.g. minutes

Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com> Thu, 29 July 2021 18:48 UTC

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Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Question about Codimd for w.g. minutes
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2021 11:47:58 -0700
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To: Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org>
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Carsten,

> On Jul 29, 2021, at 11:32 AM, Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> wrote:
> 
> On 2021-07-29, at 20:10, Kyle Rose <krose@krose.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Interesting. I think CodiMD is rendering incorrectly, because markdown intentionally ignores single newlines: if CodiMD wants a line break, it should insert *two* newlines (a paragraph break) or two spaces at the end of a line (line break) to get that effect. I would avoid the issue entirely by using bullets to delineate elements.
> 
> That is a well-known problem with markdown:
> Implementations differ in how “hard” newlines are.
> (There is also a difference on where a bullet is recognized after a paragraph.)
> 
> CodiMD’s markdown is very friendly to the online notes crowd.
> Github flavored markdown (GFM) was until they reverted to Gruber’s definition of what a newline means.
> Most other markdown implementations have the Gruber-like soft newlines and “lazy” syntax that gives even less notice to newlines.
> 
> That’s a bummer, indeed.

:-(

Especially given is growing use in the IETF.

Bob

> I’m not aware of a tool that converts hard-newline markdown like CodiMD’s to soft-newline ones (well, maybe kramdown can do that in its GFM mode; need to check).