Re: Easier access to diffs, etc.
Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com> Tue, 13 March 2012 22:40 UTC
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Popping back in the thread several messages: I agree that the announcement / revised-id messages should point to better places. Warren's redirect is interesting. I've seen a suggestion that stopped just short of asking that we configure www.ietf.org to do exactly that kind of redirect on /id/<blah>. That would produce unexpected results. One thing to keep in mind - What if you really are looking for the .txt version of the document (to feed into some other tool for instance). What link do you use? Warren - Your plugin probably does the right thing, but if you haven't tested it already you might want to check - if you have the default you point to below set to datatracker.ietf.org, does the right thing happen when you click the "plain text" link in the first block of a datatracker's main view for a document? RjS On 3/13/12 3:10 PM, Warren Kumari wrote: > On Mar 13, 2012, at 11:24 AM, Paul Kyzivat wrote: > >> On a related note, I've been wishing that the I-D Action announcement messages provided more convenient access to info about the draft. >> A link to the diff with the previous version would be nice, >> as would a link to the html version of the document in the tools area (which in turn has links to all sorts of renditions of the doc.) >> >> I find that the link that is currently provided is rarely the one I want, so I'm always having to copy the name, and then search for the form I want. Its easier to just click. :-) >> > It you use Chrome, I have written an extension that does jus this… > It is linked to from the Tools page (http://tools.ietf.org/), or a direct link: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/aiccdpabeagpjcebilebhlifplfkinao > > This simply watches for a URL of the form http://www.ietf.org/id/foo-04.txt and replaces it with http://tools.ietf/org/html/foo (or, if you change the default in the options page, datatracker.ietf.org). > > > W > > > > > >> Thanks, >> Paul >> >> On 3/13/12 1:08 PM, Jeffrey Hutzelman wrote: >>> On Tue, 2012-03-13 at 11:08 +0100, Benoit Claise wrote: >>>> Dear all, >>>> >>>> I'm wondering how to do, with the IETF tools, a diff between a WG >>>> document "RFC bis" and the "RFC" in the following example: >>>> >>>> 1. RFC 5101 was published >>>> 2. And individual draft was published to update it >>>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-claise-ipfix-protocol-rfc5101bis-02 >>>> 3. >>>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ipfix-protocol-rfc5101bis-01 was >>>> accepted as a WG document >>>> >>>> The tools >>>> (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ipfix-protocol-rfc5101bis-01) >>>> allows the diffs between the 2. and 3.. And I would like the automatic >>>> diff between 1. and .3 >>>> >>>> Any other ways than loading the different versions in >>>> http://www.ietf.org/tools/rfcdiff/? >>> As you probably know, the tools page for an internet-draft, like >>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ipfix-protocol-rfc5101bis-01 >>> includes links for jumping from one version to the next, and for showing >>> the differences between the version you're viewing and the previous >>> version. When one document succeeds another, such as a WG document >>> replacing an individual one or, in this case, the individual document >>> being the start of a revision of RFC5101, those links inlcude the >>> ability to jump from one document to the next, and to compare the first >>> version of one document with the last version of the document before it. >>> >>> So, if you go to the page for draft-claise-ipfix-protocol-rfc5101bis-00 >>> and click the "Diff1" link, you'll see differences in that document >>> since RFC5101. >>> >>> As far as I know, there is no "friendly" way to click on something and >>> see differences between two documents that are not immediately adjacent >>> versions. However, you can fairly easily edit the URL to get what you >>> want. Simply bring up the diff page for the later document, and add >>> "&url1=XXX" to the end of the URL, where XXX is the document you want to >>> compare against. Acceptable forms include draft-foo-bar-00 and rfcXXXX. >>> >>> So, to see the differences between the most recent rfc5101bis and the >>> original rfc5101, try this: >>> >>> >>> http://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-ipfix-protocol-rfc5101bis-01.txt&url1=rfc5101 >>> >>> -- Jeff >>> >>> > -- > Don't be impressed with unintelligible stuff said condescendingly. > -- Radia Perlman. > > > > >
- Diff2 from RFC -> individual RFCbis document -> W… Benoit Claise
- Re: Diff2 from RFC -> individual RFCbis document … Jeffrey Hutzelman
- Easier access to diffs, etc. Paul Kyzivat
- Re: Easier access to diffs, etc. Warren Kumari
- Re: Easier access to diffs, etc. Paul Kyzivat
- Re: Easier access to diffs, etc. Jari Arkko
- Re: Easier access to diffs, etc. Pete Resnick
- Re: Easier access to diffs, etc. Jari Arkko
- Re: Easier access to diffs, etc. Andrew G. Malis
- Re: Easier access to diffs, etc. Jeffrey Hutzelman
- Re: Easier access to diffs, etc. Pete Resnick
- RE: Easier access to diffs, etc. Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: Easier access to diffs, etc. Robert Sparks
- Re: Easier access to diffs, etc. Andrew G. Malis
- Re: Easier access to diffs, etc. Yaron Sheffer
- Re: Easier access to diffs, etc. Jari Arkko
- Re: Easier access to diffs, etc. Pete Resnick
- Re: Easier access to diffs, etc. Jari Arkko
- Re: Easier access to diffs, etc. Robert Sparks
- Re: Easier access to diffs, etc. Robert Sparks
- Re: Easier access to diffs, etc. Jari Arkko
- Re: Easier access to diffs, etc. Martin Thomson
- Re: Easier access to diffs, etc. Adam Roach
- Re: Easier access to diffs, etc. Warren Kumari
- Re: Easier access to diffs, etc. Martin Thomson
- Re: Easier access to diffs, etc. Dean Willis