Re: Weird messages from IETF/Google Mailservers (WG: PALS WG Adoption poll draft-schmutzer-pals-ple)

Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu> Thu, 01 June 2023 09:08 UTC

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Nic,

No I do get them also, it looks like gmail-addresses does not work with 
gmail addresses, for me it works if I send directly to the gmail 
addresses (i.e. not using the mail-alias).

Andy reported this, and the answer was "know problem".

What I don't understand is that we must have gmail-addresses on the 
working mailing list, but no bounces.

/Loa

On 2023-06-01 11:00, N.Leymann@telekom.de wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Am I the only one getting weird messages from IETF/Google Mail Servers?
> Looks like that the expansion of an alias caused the problem.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Nic
> 
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Mail Delivery System <MAILER-DAEMON@ietfa.amsl.com>
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 1. Juni 2023 10:50
> An: Leymann, Nicolai
> Betreff: Unzustellbar: PALS WG Adoption poll draft-schmutzer-pals-ple
> 
> This is the mail system at host ietfa.amsl.com.
> 
> I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.
> 
> For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.
> 
> If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete your own text from the attached returned message.
> 
>                     The mail system
> 
> <agmalis@gmail.com> (expanded from <expand-pals-chairs@virtual.ietf.org>): host
>      gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[2607:f8b0:4023:c06::1b] said: 550-5.7.26 This
>      mail is unauthenticated, which poses a security risk to the 550-5.7.26
>      sender and Gmail users, and has been blocked. The sender must 550-5.7.26
>      authenticate with at least one of SPF or DKIM. For this message, 550-5.7.26
>      DKIM checks did not pass and SPF check for [telekom.de] did not pass
>      550-5.7.26 with ip: [2001:559:c4c7::100]. The sender should visit
>      550-5.7.26  https://support.google.com/mail/answer/81126#authentication for
>      550 5.7.26 instructions on setting up authentication.
>      g9-20020a17090ace8900b00246fe4e326dsi753688pju.81 - gsmtp (in reply to end
>      of DATA command)
> 
> <david.sinicrope@gmail.com> (expanded from
>      <expand-pals-chairs@virtual.ietf.org>): host
>      gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[2607:f8b0:4023:c06::1b] said: 550-5.7.26 This
>      mail is unauthenticated, which poses a security risk to the 550-5.7.26
>      sender and Gmail users, and has been blocked. The sender must 550-5.7.26
>      authenticate with at least one of SPF or DKIM. For this message, 550-5.7.26
>      DKIM checks did not pass and SPF check for [telekom.de] did not pass
>      550-5.7.26 with ip: [2001:559:c4c7::100]. The sender should visit
>      550-5.7.26  https://support.google.com/mail/answer/81126#authentication for
>      550 5.7.26 instructions on setting up authentication.
>      g9-20020a17090ace8900b00246fe4e326dsi753688pju.81 - gsmtp (in reply to end
>      of DATA command)
> 
> <stewart.bryant@gmail.com> (expanded from
>      <expand-pals-chairs@virtual.ietf.org>): host
>      gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[2607:f8b0:4023:c06::1b] said: 550-5.7.26 This
>      mail is unauthenticated, which poses a security risk to the 550-5.7.26
>      sender and Gmail users, and has been blocked. The sender must 550-5.7.26
>      authenticate with at least one of SPF or DKIM. For this message, 550-5.7.26
>      DKIM checks did not pass and SPF check for [telekom.de] did not pass
>      550-5.7.26 with ip: [2001:559:c4c7::100]. The sender should visit
>      550-5.7.26  https://support.google.com/mail/answer/81126#authentication for
>      550 5.7.26 instructions on setting up authentication.
>      g9-20020a17090ace8900b00246fe4e326dsi753688pju.81 - gsmtp (in reply to end
>      of DATA command)
> 

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