Re: [irsg] Terms in RFC 2418

Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> Tue, 14 September 2021 18:43 UTC

Return-Path: <cabo@tzi.org>
X-Original-To: wgchairs@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: wgchairs@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6788F3A28AA for <wgchairs@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 14 Sep 2021 11:43:44 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -1.899
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vbU-xxLBQguN for <wgchairs@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 14 Sep 2021 11:43:39 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from gabriel-smtp.zfn.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-smtp.zfn.uni-bremen.de [IPv6:2001:638:708:32::15]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F11A23A28A7 for <wgchairs@ietf.org>; Tue, 14 Sep 2021 11:43:38 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from smtpclient.apple (p548dcf6e.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.141.207.110]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gabriel-smtp.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4H8C0n05gJz2xGx; Tue, 14 Sep 2021 20:43:36 +0200 (CEST)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.120.0.1.13\))
Subject: Re: [irsg] Terms in RFC 2418
From: Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org>
In-Reply-To: <3521d49c-198f-0d22-8072-ca7c66b8ecec@nostrum.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2021 20:43:36 +0200
Cc: Leif Johansson <leifj@sunet.se>, wgchairs@ietf.org
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Message-Id: <7214E00E-EED4-459B-91BC-D9359DD7DFD1@tzi.org>
References: <A11B9A3B-E30D-416C-AC1A-4E2EB046C003@akamai.com> <CALaySJL9BFj1zniqqB5r5rTg0+YMcafPD38TXm1+_Dk=NYCN3w@mail.gmail.com> <B939C829-3496-481E-BBD6-2D5135C6B9F7@eggert.org> <39265354-c766-d542-1777-742e1284896f@sunet.se> <3521d49c-198f-0d22-8072-ca7c66b8ecec@nostrum.com>
To: Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com>
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.120.0.1.13)
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/wgchairs/eyw9nL-iEk_KPn9a90_5rSGDJHU>
X-BeenThere: wgchairs@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: Working Group Chairs <wgchairs.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/wgchairs>, <mailto:wgchairs-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/wgchairs/>
List-Post: <mailto:wgchairs@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:wgchairs-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/wgchairs>, <mailto:wgchairs-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2021 18:43:45 -0000

Now you have to tell us what a “delegate” and a “matman” is :-)

Grüße, Carsten


> On 14. Sep 2021, at 18:28, Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com> wrote:
> 
> Fwiw, across all time that the datatracker has modeled:
> 
> In [3]: from collections import Counter; from ietf.group.models import Role; Counter(Role.objects.filter(group__type='wg').values_list('name',flat=True))
> Out[3]:
> Counter({'ad': 555,
>          'chair': 1664,
>          'delegate': 6,
>          'editor': 13,
>          'liaison_contact': 79,
>          'matman': 2,
>          'secr': 41,
>          'techadv': 100})
> 
> Facilitator and consultant have not been used (as far as the datatracker knows).
> 
> On 9/14/21 4:32 AM, Leif Johansson wrote:
>> On 2021-09-14 10:21, Lars Eggert wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> On 2021-9-13, at 22:37, Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org> wrote:
>>>> I'm not aware of "Facilitator" being used, but working groups do
>>>> occasionally have a "Consultant" role, which shows up in the
>>>> datatracker as "Tech Advisors".  Anima, Mboned, and Mops, at least,
>>>> currently have some.
>>> +1
>>> 
>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/nfsv4/about/ shows Leif Johansson as "Tech Advisor" at the moment, too.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Lars
>>> 
>> Dear god, I forgot about that. I have never been asked to do anything tho :-)
>> 
>> 	Cheers Leif
>> 
>