Re: [woes] WOES Charter Proposal

Joe Hildebrand <joe.hildebrand@webex.com> Thu, 16 June 2011 20:29 UTC

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Kris has most of what we need already in his JSON Schema draft.


On 6/16/11 2:14 PM, "Stephen Farrell" <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> wrote:

> I guess I'd worry about the added time if its a dependency but maybe there're
> ways around that. (Developing new schema stuff sounds to me like a slooow
> thing;-)
> 
> S
> 
> On 16 Jun 2011, at 20:43, "Peter Saint Andre" <Peter.SaintAndre@webex.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Yes, that seems not unreasonable.
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Joe Hildebrand
>> To: Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>
>> Cc: Mike Jones <Michael.Jones@microsoft.com>; Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN -
>> FI/Espoo) <hannes.tschofenig@nsn.com>; ext Manger, James H
>> <James.H.Manger@team.telstra.com>; Sean Turner <turners@ieca.com>;
>> woes@ietf.org <woes@ietf.org>; kris@sitepen.com <kris@sitepen.com>; Peter
>> Saint Andre; Pete Resnick <presnick@qualcomm.com>
>> Sent: Thu Jun 16 12:21:56 2011
>> Subject: Re: [woes] WOES Charter Proposal
>> 
>> Agree that 4 is scope creep that is outside of the scope of normal security
>> area stuff, but it's likely to be a prereq.  I'm fine with dropping it from
>> the charter, potentially getting support from the Apps ADs to move stuff
>> like JSON Schema through the Apps AWG.
>> 
>> 
>> On 6/16/11 11:51 AM, "Stephen Farrell" <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> 3 & 4 there look a bit like scope-creep to me
>>> 
>>> Why are they absolutely needed?
>>> 
>>> S.
>>> 
>>> On 16/06/11 18:33, Joe Hildebrand wrote:
>>>> Slight tweaks
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 6/16/11 11:26 AM, "Mike Jones" <Michael.Jones@microsoft.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>    1) A JSON-based method of applying digital signatures and keyed message
>>>>> digests to data that may represent JSON data structures.
>>>> 
>>>> ... may represent arbitrary data, including JSON data structures and text
>>>> 
>>>>>    2) A JSON-based method of applying encryption to data that may
>>>>> represent
>>>>> JSON data structures.
>>>> 
>>>> Same as 1) above.  Not just for JSON.
>>>> 
>>>>> Separately, we may want to consider whether the following should be in
>>>>> scope:
>>>>> 
>>>>>    3) A JSON-based method of representing public keys.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Also, please update and/or add these references (some were out of date,
>>>>> some
>>>>> were missing):
>>>> 
>>>> Let's also add:
>>>> 
>>>> 4) Any JSON-specific prerequisite tooling such as JSON Schema
>>>> 
>>>> And add draft-zyp-json-schema as a reference.  I CC'd Kris Zyp to see if
>>>> he's ok with that.  Kris: this might be a chance for a WG to pick up JSON
>>>> Schema if you like.
>>>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Joe Hildebrand
>> 

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Joe Hildebrand