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Re: [xmpp] [Gen-art] Gen-ART review for draft-ietf-xmpp-websocket-07

Dave Cridland <dave@cridland.net> Tue, 08 July 2014 15:30 UTC

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From: Dave Cridland <dave@cridland.net>
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Subject: Re: [xmpp] [Gen-art] Gen-ART review for draft-ietf-xmpp-websocket-07
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On 8 July 2014 10:06, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) <dromasca@avaya.com> wrote:

> Hi Jari,
>
> The authors actually responded - see
> http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/gen-art/current/msg10306.html.
>
> They pushed back on my #1 - I am still not convinced by their argument (as
> the protocol does change by adding a different mapping) but I would not
> block the document for this purpose.
> The proposed changes for the rest are fine.
>

I genuinely don't understand why adding an additional binding should
require an Updates.

I understand "Updates" to be an indicator that implementors of (in this
case) RFC 6120 would need to read this document as well, and I don't
believe that to be the case.

In particular, implementors of RFC 6120 don't need to care about this
document unless they *also* want to do XMPP over Websockets, in the same
way that implementors of Websockets don't need to care about this document
unless they *also* want to send XMPP over them.

Of course, readers of this document are required to read both RFC 6120 and
the Websockets spec, but that's what Normative References are for.

Dave.

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