Re: [xrblock] I-D Action: draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcweb-rtcp-xr-metrics-01.txt

Thank you Roni for the review and  feedback.

I too prefer 6.7, however, 6.8 has gapDiscardRate and gapLossRate in
addition to burstDiscardRate and burstLossRate, which cannot be
derived by the raw information in 6.7.
Would we be unhappy if the gapRates were removed or missing?

The other minor issue/bug within 6.7, that there is no definition for
burstDiscardCount in any XR draft. This would require a new draft and
can be proceeded in parallel.

-Varun

On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 9:14 AM, Roni Even <ron.even.tlv@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Varun,
>
> I think that we can keep 6.7 and remove 6.8. Having the actual numbers
> allows for calculating rate and other statistics, so I find it more useful
>
> Roni Even
>
>
>
> From: xrblock [mailto:xrblock-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Varun Singh
> Sent: 28 February, 2015 10:48 PM
> To: xrblock@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [xrblock] I-D Action:
> draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcweb-rtcp-xr-metrics-01.txt
>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> The -01 draft incorporates the changes discussed at IETF 91.
> - new registry defined for WebRTC Statistics API
> - added the SR and RR metrics, which were earlier in
> draft-alvestrand-rtcweb-stats-registry
> - changed the TitleCased identifiers to camelCase, to keep consistency with
> the W3C document.
>
> OPEN ISSUE (burst metrics):
> The document currently defines two sets of burst metrics
> - Section 6.7: Reports cumulative packets in a burst and the corresponding
> burst counts.
> - Section 6.8.: Reports the average fraction of packets lost in a burst/gap.
>
> From section 6.7, we can infer the average burst of packet loss/discards by
> dividing the total_packets_lost_in_burst/burst_count.
> >From section 6.8, we can infer the impact of the burst packet loss, i.e.,
> total_burst_loss/totel_expected_packets/burst_count
>
> Do we keep both? or pick one?
>
> Thoughts and comments on the open issue and the document in general are
> appreciated.
>
> Regards,
> Varun (on behalf of the authors)
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 7:22 PM, <internet-drafts@ietf.org> wrote:
>>
>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
>> directories.
>> This draft is a work item of the Metric Blocks for use with RTCP's
>> Extended Report Framework Working Group of the IETF.
>>
>> Title : Considerations for Selecting RTCP Extended Report (XR) Metrics for
>> the WebRTC Statistics API
>> Authors : Varun Singh
>> Rachel Huang
>> Roni Even
>> Dan Romascanu
>> Lingli Deng
>> Filename : draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcweb-rtcp-xr-metrics-01.txt
>> Pages : 17
>> Date : 2015-02-28
>>
>> Abstract:
>> This document describes monitoring features related to media streams
>> in Web real-time communication (WebRTC). It provides a list of RTCP
>> Sender Report, Receiver Report and Extended Report metrics, which may
>> need to be supported by RTP implementations in some diverse
>> environments. It also defines a new IANA registry, a list of
>> identifiers for the WebRTC's statistics API. These identifiers are a
>> set of RTCP SR, RR, and XR metrics related to the transport of
>> multimedia flows.
>>
>>
>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
>>
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcweb-rtcp-xr-metrics/
>>
>> There's also a htmlized version available at:
>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcweb-rtcp-xr-metrics-01
>>
>> A diff from the previous version is available at:
>>
>> http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcweb-rtcp-xr-metrics-01
>>
>>
>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of
>> submission
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>>
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