Re: [yam] preliminary -- draft-ietf-yam-rfc1652bis-pre-evaluation
Ned Freed <ned.freed@mrochek.com> Sun, 16 August 2009 16:51 UTC
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> --On Thursday, August 13, 2009 18:12 -0400 Tony Hansen > <tony@att.com> wrote: > > Thanks Dave. > > > > Template comments: > >... > > Link to Draft Standard interoperability report, > > [[ No report appears to be on file with the IETF. /d ]] > > > > I'm not sure what to do here. This may be a tripping point for > > the IESG, and we may need to provide an interop report for any > > RFCs that are missing one. > I'd personally be inclined to take a hard line on this. There > is no requirement for an interoperability report for Draft -> > Full. None. There is also no requirement, or even mechanism, > for a review of the prior interoperability report. If some IESG > approved the document for Draft Standard, they made a definitive > decision that evidence of interoperability was sufficient. > There is no procedure for a current IESG to second-guess that > except by moving a Draft Standard document to Historic and > historically (sic) wide deployment and use is a bar against > doing that. > It is not YAM's job to either find documentation that the IESG > has misplaced or to generate documentation that may not have > existed in a time of more relaxed and informal procedures, > especially for something that is not subject to review as part > of YAM's work. > > Questions to the WG: Do we put in some sort of simple > > statement like what Dave has in brackets, assume that one > > isn't needed, and see if the IESG barfs? Or do we offer up > > front to provide an interop report in cases where one is > > missing? We could state that one will be provided along with > > the revised draft. > We remove the entire item from the template and point anyone who > asks to what 2026 actually says. > Just my { hard-line, sorehead } opinion. Emphatic agreement on all points. I guess that makes me a hard-line sorehead as well... Ned
- [yam] preliminary -- draft-ietf-yam-rfc1652bis-pr… Dave CROCKER
- Re: [yam] preliminary -- draft-ietf-yam-rfc1652bi… Tony Hansen
- Re: [yam] preliminary -- draft-ietf-yam-rfc1652bi… John C Klensin
- Re: [yam] preliminary -- draft-ietf-yam-rfc1652bi… SM
- Re: [yam] preliminary -- draft-ietf-yam-rfc1652bi… Dave CROCKER
- Re: [yam] preliminary -- draft-ietf-yam-rfc1652bi… Dave CROCKER
- Re: [yam] preliminary -- draft-ietf-yam-rfc1652bi… Tony Hansen
- Re: [yam] preliminary -- draft-ietf-yam-rfc1652bi… Dave CROCKER
- Re: [yam] preliminary -- draft-ietf-yam-rfc1652bi… SM
- Re: [yam] preliminary -- draft-ietf-yam-rfc1652bi… Dave CROCKER
- Re: [yam] preliminary -- draft-ietf-yam-rfc1652bi… Tony Hansen
- Re: [yam] preliminary -- draft-ietf-yam-rfc1652bi… SM
- Re: [yam] preliminary -- draft-ietf-yam-rfc1652bi… Dave CROCKER
- Re: [yam] preliminary -- draft-ietf-yam-rfc1652bi… Tony Hansen
- Re: [yam] preliminary -- draft-ietf-yam-rfc1652bi… Ned Freed
- Re: [yam] preliminary -- draft-ietf-yam-rfc1652bi… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [yam] preliminary -- draft-ietf-yam-rfc1652bi… Tony Hansen
- Re: [yam] preliminary -- draft-ietf-yam-rfc1652bi… Alexey Melnikov