Re: [yam] Wasting the working group's time and effort

Alessandro Vesely <vesely@tana.it> Sat, 12 September 2009 10:03 UTC

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Subject: Re: [yam] Wasting the working group's time and effort
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Dave CROCKER wrote:
> Alessandro Vesely wrote:
>> I haven't seen a chair's assessment on this subject (yet.)
> 
> Yes you have, and you begged to disagree with it.

Ah, then you must mean 
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/yam/current/msg00098.html; I 
thought you meant a chair's assessment :-/

>>> Please document the wg support you have gotten which refutes the 
>>> chair's assessment.

That's simple. SM checked that wording was already in RFC 2821, Ned 
provided a deep analysis of various cases, and John gave an explicit 
description of client behavior. I don't think they would have gone 
into such level of detail if they had thought it was a waste of time 
and effort; hence their conduct supports the worthiness of duly 
clearing the errata, which was the only point I disagreed with.

> You appear to be missing the basics of IETF process understanding.

Yes, my very little IETF experience is essentially limited to 
mailing list discussions, thus your latter point may be correct. 
I've read a fair amount of procedural guides and RFCs, and make a 
good-faith effort to comply with them, though.