Re: [75attendees] No PGP Key Signing session??

Pete Resnick <presnick@qualcomm.com> Tue, 28 July 2009 08:13 UTC

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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 10:13:18 +0200
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On 7/28/09 at 9:22 AM +0200, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote:

>What I understand is that there is no checking of government IDs at 
>theses IETF PGP signing sessions. That doesn't seem very useful to 
>me...

I think checking government IDs is a TERRIBLE idea (though you are 
certainly allowed to do so). When I sign a key, I am saying that *I* 
know the person. I am not saying that I am an expert in determining 
forged or true government IDs and that I see that this person has a 
valid one. Personally, if I think you have signed someone's key 
because you checked their government ID, I will not trust your 
signature.

pr
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